HPN style cartridge inserts for the R100GS

Discussion in 'Airheads' started by Kokopelli, Nov 24, 2011.

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Would you consider participating in a group buy?

  1. Yes, if the price is right.

  2. No, these cartridges are way to expensive.

  3. No, USD forks will work so much better

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  1. One Less Harley

    One Less Harley OH.THAT'S GONNA HURT

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    bumping this again to the top, tomorrow's Friday..speak up
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  2. MoMan

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    put me back as a maybe :lobby
    could use funds we're not suppose to touch, but Chief Financial/Fashion/Social Director said that if I "REALLY" want them...
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  3. Squeezer

    Squeezer n00b

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    A solid "Probably" in Portland OR...
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  4. Kokopelli

    Kokopelli Yeah, right!

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    Maybe and probably will really get the guy excited. :lol3 I've sent him a list and will ring tomorrow to find out what info he needs and if he will set up Paypal. Is there anything else I should ask?
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  5. One Less Harley

    One Less Harley OH.THAT'S GONNA HURT

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    What are the choices of spring rates or will that be answered when we order and give specs of weight and riding style???
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  6. MoMan

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    if it's not to late, I'm in :thumb
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  7. Les_Garten

    Les_Garten Been here awhile

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    Do these cartridges work in R100 forks?

    If so what are the advantages over the Race Tech Emulators?
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  8. One Less Harley

    One Less Harley OH.THAT'S GONNA HURT

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    they are for the R100GS front ends (40 mm Marzocchi), adjustable compression and rebound on the fly.

    Once I get these in my Gold Valve and Racetech HD springs will be up for sell, plus the one leg which has been drilled (exchange for the stock one)
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  9. Stagehand

    Stagehand Imperfectionist

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    THe Race Tech emulators are just a small device that sits inside your stock fork legs, with all the stock fork guts, and nothing about the forks really changes. In fact, for standard GS legs, you only use one on the compression (or rebound) side I can never remember. It "emulates" cartridge forks. A little bit. They do make one for the R100.

    www.racetech.com



    The Race Tech inserts this thread is referring to replace the entire internal guts of the R100GS forks with, ostensibly, real cartridge type stuff. Its made by a different company that the race tech mentioned above, and they're German, which is how that happens. HPN used to make a set called the "magnum inserts" which were used on their Dakar race bikes (I could be making this part up :D) They are reputed to be quite a significant step up in performance from stock, not the least of which is the external adjustable comp and rebound damping :rabiaa

    It will obviate the comp-one-side, rebound-the-other functionality of the standard GS forks and make them both to be both, like regular forks.
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  10. Les_Garten

    Les_Garten Been here awhile

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    It's hard to follow the German site because they use Graphics for their text, but the gist is that these won't work on my R100 I guess. I have the Gold Valve emulators and springs that I got last week. Then saw this post. Looks pretty sharp for the GS folks.
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  11. Kokopelli

    Kokopelli Yeah, right!

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    They have this Gabel Kit4 - BMW R 100 R

    I will ring Hubert this evening, that will make it Saturday morning in Germany. Hopefully, all the detail can be sorted then.
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  12. Les_Garten

    Les_Garten Been here awhile

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    I've got a 92 R100RT with the 38mm forks. Not the R100R
    If you correspond with the RT folks, I would like to know if I could get inline with you guys with something that would work on mine.
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  13. Kokopelli

    Kokopelli Yeah, right!

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    Just talked to Hubert, apparently they are working on something for the RT as well.
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  14. Kokopelli

    Kokopelli Yeah, right!

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    Quick update. Just got of the phone with Racetech. Hubert is going to set up a Paypal account, so that should make it easier for all of us. I think he is happy enough to go ahead with the numbers we have.

    He is going to send me an email with more details, finally. He doesn't seem to be into emails all that much.

    I know he'll want to know which bike, how heavy and which tyres. He also wants to know how heavy the riders is. The forks will be set-up individually and will come with full instructions.

    I am starting to get excited about this. I must order some new fork bushes, might as well get it right.

    A local well known rider is going to do the Dakar, so he has organized a fundraising ride tomorrow. I am looking forward to it, too bad I haven't got the forks yet. If you are following that sort of stuff, look out for Chris Birch from NZ on his, *cough*, KTM.
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  15. Renner

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    great news, thanks Kokopi :thumb
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    Chris Birch is doing Dakar this year? thats terrific, he's pretty amazing.
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  17. Les_Garten

    Les_Garten Been here awhile

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    Thanx!

    Looks like some interesting products.
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  18. One Less Harley

    One Less Harley OH.THAT'S GONNA HURT

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    I hope he sets up Pay Pal, as my bank fees for wire transfer was high!!! Plus that will make future sales easy for him easier...a win win situation!! Setting up some sort of account will help him sell more kits, the foreign market isn't one to be ignored as there are plenty of guys willing to drop the money!! This will get the word out that there an easy option for people wanting better forks with out the trouble if figuring out what components to source out.


    :clap:clap:clap:clap Thanks for the work Kokopelli:freaky
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  19. MoMan

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    When I worked at a BMW shop, I helped a lot customers get this type of information for their suspension upgrades.

    Which Bike = Make, Model, Year
    How Heavy = What percentage (%) do you ride with a passenger (and what do they weigh?) Also do you carry loaded saddlebags/topcase, etc (and what do they weigh and what percentage of the time?)
    Which Tires (Tyres) = What type of riding? Off-road, commute, adventure or sport-touring , etc.? Example: 60% commute 30% adventure touring 10% aggressive off-road.
    Rider Weight = what you weigh WITH your gear on

    I would suggest we (as in non-metric countries) convert pounds or stones to kilograms so Herr Hubert doesn't need to worry about the math.

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  20. Kokopelli

    Kokopelli Yeah, right!

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    I'll translate his form and make it available. It's actually Herr Hofmann, Hubert is his first name.
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