Husaberg Rallye bikes

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  1. SafariBerg

    SafariBerg Oz Safari Addict

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    the engine mounts & frame is totally different between the FE450 and the 450EXC, no way its interchangable

    You can buy a new spare FE570 motor for racing for about AUD$7,000, so I guess around USD$5,500 as things are cheaper over in the USA
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    SafariBerg Oz Safari Addict

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    cool, so Bjorn is back in the rallye saddle on a berg again :thumbup

    both 650's ?
  3. troy safari carpente

    troy safari carpente Team f5oolery

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    Yes, both are 650's and the second one is prepped and ridden by Anders B... brother to "Swedish" Mikael, who rode the 2008 Australasian Safari on a CRF 450 with the GHR team.

    Micke has built a replica of his '08 Safari bike, here at home in Sweden using some GHR sourced parts and tips from "the penguin". :thumb

    I believe Anders had some contact with yourself, on some tips for jetting etc. on his 'Berg?
  4. TCSVN

    TCSVN ...Stays in Vegas...

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    Appreciate the update, hadn't gotten that far in the homework yet. I live in Europe right now, but have looked into buying a 'berg in the US and having it shipped here since the conversion rate drains my bank pretty quick.


    OTOH, KTMs and KTM parts are way cheaper for me here since there's so much of it on the market. The FE450 is purely emotional for me. There's no reason why I couldn't get away with what I want to do on orange, I just figure this is a once in lifetime opportunity for me to knock some great riding in EUR and N. Africa, so I might as well do it right.
  5. lit

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    First post :clap


    I am currently in love with he 570FE. Only weeks away from buying one.

    I would love to start doing some safari racing. How does one get into it? What does one need? Can you point me in the right direction? I might ride down to Nannup on Sunday to have a look at the Forrest Rally.

    Would make my year if I could get my shit together and enter another berg in the 2010 Australasian safari. I should not get ahead of myself. 2011 :D
  6. twotyred

    twotyred Practising Recedivist

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    Nothing wrong with having ambitions!!:clap :clap :clap I wish you the best of luck.

    Congrats on your new Berg..I also have a 2010 FE450 in my shed and I LOVE the way it handles. It really flatters my meagre abilities.
  7. fetid_swamp

    fetid_swamp Been here awhile

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    gear it for speed and do the safari adventour challenge tour this year to ride some of the course and get a feel for the event, then race in 2011.
  8. SafariBerg

    SafariBerg Oz Safari Addict

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    Totally +100 :thumbup best way to dip the toe in the water and get an inside feel, but sign up quick as spots are filling fast and it is capped at 13 riders I hear

    Also Gazza Whittle the tour lead rider will be on a Berg FE570 this year and will be supported by our team so you know help/parts etc is very close at hand for your bike if in the unlikely you need it :D

    gearing wise run 15:50
  9. SafariBerg

    SafariBerg Oz Safari Addict

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    yes head down, Andrew Coaker & Mick Heuchan are riding 570's and Rhys Curiel our 2010 Safari support team manager is looking after them so introduce your self and check things out, be easy to find re the Berg quickshade & banners etc :D
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    SafariBerg Oz Safari Addict

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    The Quit Forest Rally in 2010 for the first time in the history of the Australian Rally Championship (ARC) for autos, motorbikes & quads competed in the rally in a RallyMOTO format event. 2 Days of WRC style racing over forest gravel roads at Nannup south of Perth WA the same as the autos.

    2 Husaberg FE570
    #110 Mick Heuchan - 2nd Outright & 1st E3 class
    #108 Andrew Coaker - 3rd Outright & 2nd E3 class

    Lots of photos here

    http://www.facebook.com/pages/Perth-Australia/Husaberg-Rallye-Racing-Australia/315347661288?ref=mf#!/album.php?aid=209859&id=315347661288&ref=mf

    and press release here

    http://www.eatmydirt.com.au/News/tabid/54/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/1094/Husaberg-take-2nd-3rd-at-the-2010-ARC-Forest-Rally-RallyMOTO.aspx

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  11. TheDog

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    Yes, It´s the same 'ol 650 that run once more in the Tuareg Rally 2011, Morocco.
    This time I'll replace the Meca tower and fairing with a standard KTM/Husaberg triple clamp mounted bracket. LESS IS ABSOLUTELY MORE!
  12. troy safari carpente

    troy safari carpente Team f5oolery

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    I seem to recall talking or hearing Annie talking about it during the Safari a couple of years ago. Don't recall the detail but I seem to remember her commenting to me at a check point or somewhere about how 'she was not used to it' and was said in some negative tone. I am sure SafariBerg will set the record straight here though.

    I would see a high amount of steered inertia from all that equipment especially being so far from the turning axis.

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    Quote: SafariBerg; Yes in 2009 Safari we went with a smallish triple clamp mounted fairing and nav gear set up. While the riders Annie, David Schwarz & Andrew Coaker said it was ok they all felt it made the steering noticeably heavier

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    For 2010 Safari I asked the riders, Annie & David again as well as Ze Helio for their preferred set up, options being
    1. Dakar style fairing head stem mounted - like Mecasystem ones
    2. 2009 Safari small fairing again
    3. enduro lights with bar mounted nav gear - al la GHR
    All 3 said they wanted light simple enduro style set up

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    This worked well, BUT again at the end of the event all 3 riders commented that they still felt it on the bars compared to the Dakar style stem mounted fairings they had all used a lot before.


    So for 2011 Safari it will be a hybrid, reduced Mecasystem fairing mount bracket off the head stem with enduro light & mask plus nav gear = light simple cockpit to KISS and mounted off the frame not the steering :thumb



    So far we have tried the 2 set ups above and the more traditional Dakar style, this is the Mecasystem nav mounts & fairing from their KTM530 kit which pretty much bolts on.
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    So I hink the hybrid will be a best of both worlds hopefully :D
  13. troy safari carpente

    troy safari carpente Team f5oolery

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    <TABLE id=post14592229 class=tborder border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=4 width="100%" align=center><TBODY><TR vAlign=top><TD id=td_post_14592229 class=alt1>While we're on Husabergs
    <HR style="COLOR: #575757" SIZE=1><!-- / icon and title --><!-- message -->Hasse J (a Swedish mate of mine) took a few leaves out of SafariBergs playbook, and over the summer built this "rallye lite" FE570 using the MecaSystem fairing/nav' tower concept (from the EXC 530 kit). :deal

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    Using the standard 8 litre Husa' tank, plus the 4 litre 70 degrees racing rear subframe tank, the bike is as slim and nimble as the original enduro bike... And Hasse reckons with the FI motor, those 12 liters will be good for 140 - 160 km's or there abouts.

    With the cockpit mounted off the headtube; the weight is off the bars (it steers and turns lightly) and the fairing shields all the nav gear/electrics nicely. Just a bit stiffer in the springrate and bump up the damping on the forks a tad, to cope with the few extra kilo's up the front... and it's a pleasure to ride!

    Having ridden it a few weeks back, the only thing I can say (personally) that is a bit of a drawback is the obscured vision forward in technical terrain... I nicknamed it the Blue Rhino. :D While you don't notice it so much at speed, in open terrain (looking up ahead), the high screen creates a bit of a "blind spot" when the going gets tight (or cresting dunes for example)... but hey... that pretty normal for a "fairing style" Dakar bike.

    The above set-up would probably make for a very light and nimble nav- rally/enduro style race, like Sardinia or the Italian championship events.

    For TUAREG 2011 we are going to build two similar FE450's using a small enduro mask/roadbook/ICO set up off the triple clamps and the garden variety Garmin GPS on the bars. By using the standard Husa' tank, and the 70 degree racing rear subfram tank (a' la' above), we have a lean/mean rallye (lite) machine. For the longer stages we have the option of throwing on the Safari/Aqualine rear side tank for the extra 10 liters (if needed), which on the 450 should be ample for up to about 250 km's. For anything more than that there is the possibility of also mounting the front auxilliary Safari/Aqualine tanks (as pictured on Annie/safariBergs bikes at top) which fit over the top of the radiators (where the plastic shrouds normallly go) and these would give ample fuel range on a DAKAR /FIM style rally (250 km minimum refuel distance) plus some safety margin.

    Looks like there are going to be afew Husaberg Rally bikes around in the near future. :wink:
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  14. mookymoo

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    How have these rear tanks held up in so far as maintaining their shape in the heat/sun? Any issues with them changing shape/growing/becoming difficult to mount again?

    It seems to be a quite frequent complaint with various sorts of Aqualine tanks. Just wondering what the experience has been so far with these rear tanks.
  15. troy safari carpente

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    The complaints (I've heard/read about) with regard to Safari/Aqualine tanks changing form/expanding/difficulties with re-mounting etc. have (in my experience) been mostly to do with those two VERY large capacity (44 liter and 30 liter versions) front tanks they produced for the 950/990 Adv and 950 SE respectively...

    Not an excuse; but more an explanation for this; could be the extremely large volume of the tanks (in relation to motorcycle application) coupled with the fact that they are mounted above the engine, and many been used in very hot desert climate (air temps of 35 degree C +). The combination of wieght, heat and fuel expansion could account perhaps for the excessive "stretch factor". But to be honest... I've seen similar happen with other brand large capacity aftermarket plastic tanks in desert temperatures as well... as far back as the 80's and 90's.

    I believe that some changes to the early production runs was made to address some of theses issues... what the result (improvement) has been I am not sure.

    With regards to the REAR tanks you enquire; Safari/Aqualine make rear subframe tanks for the EXC, WRF, CRF and now FE Husa bikes, similar in principle to those pictured above. All are around the 8 to 10 liter mark there abouts and mount away from any direct heat source (an aluminium/carbon slip on sliencer generates nowhere near the heat of an engine). As such there is nowhere near the weight/heat factors placed on these tanks and as yet; I am not aware of any major expansion/fitment problems... but SafariBerg (who has run them on his team bikes at the 2009 and 2010 Australian Safari's) will be able to give some more detail.
  16. SafariBerg

    SafariBerg Oz Safari Addict

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    yeah as Troy mentions we have now used them since Safari 2009, a bit under 50,000km all up, we have had no issues with any of the tanks changing shape etc front or rear and have swapped them between bikes a number of times. I think given the couple of major crashes that have occured that the tanks are very destructo proof, the mount brackets also are top quality. A couple of the tank sets this year did last year as well so individual tanks now have around 10,000km on them and I would happily use them for the next couple of years :thumb
  17. David P.

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    Some pics of Ronnie Bodingers and Thomas Berglunds lovely Dakar Husabergs. We have helped them out by supplying our navigation brackets and mufflers for these bikes. The fairings are not yet done, but they almost look better like this.. :D

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  18. SafariBerg

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    Looks like the stock radiators ?
    is there 2 fans ?

    also I can see what appear to be 2 oil coolers ? a 690 style one and a cylinder style behind it ? how much oil does the system now hold ?

    is it the stock headlight ?

    I can see the bikes are running a 320mm front disc, we ran a 310mm disc off the KTM 690R on Ze Helio's bike and he found it a very worth while upgrade, so the 320mm should do the trick

    only the stock rear wheel ? no cush hub ?

    stock 22mm offset clamps ?
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    mookymoo Mookish Mook

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    Sure. The have been many reports of issues with the big 950/990A tanks.

    However, more recently I was reading this : http://www.advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=13942562&postcount=55 and the same subject cropped up.
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