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Discussion in 'Shiny Things' started by Anorak, Nov 8, 2012.
So, what's the story on this?
I don't know. I can't find any reference to it. Perhaps the warning light assembly is shared with another vehicle with a diesel option.
That will be awesome combo.. diesel hybrid. I remember seeing a few articles about Chevy Cruz getting a small diesel power plant..
Instrument clusters often have a variety of additional spots that aren't used in specific applications.
Considering the typical engine duty cycle in a volt it is a less than ideal diesel platform.
What do you mean? They don't make gasoline hybrid trains.
I mean the frequent on/off duty cycle of the engine in the environments in which the volt shines really aren't the best venue for a diesel. Diesels (almost all of which are turbocharged in modern automotive applications) do best when started and run through complete warm up and cool down cycles. Frequent start/stop operations aren't as good for a turbo diesel. A normally aspirated gasoline engine isn't nearly as adversely affected by this operation, and tends to warm up faster than a comparably performing diesel.
The ideal setup in most hybrids so far has been a naturally aspirated Atkinson cycle. Simpler, lighter and about as efficient as the diesel cycle just down on power. Electric boost takes care of that problem and at cruising speed we don't need much power. Toyota and Ford have both gone this route. Some wonder if GM will do the same in Volt 2.0. VW tho has gone whole hog with a new gas engine with all the goodies. Beats the TDI in combined mileage by 25% without loss of performance.
A diesel in the volt would have little benefit. Since it rarely drives the wheels, the torque benefit is lost. More weight for what?
This is an interesting solution to the the upcoming problem of what to do with used electric auto batteries.
"Imagine a future in which old electric-car batteries are deployed in neighborhoods as energy-storage systems that guard against power outages, while paving the way for wind and solar powerand more electric cars. The idea has moved one step closer with the demonstration of a boxy unit of used Chevy Volt batteries capable of providing enough electricity to power three to five average American homes for up to two hours."
The Volt runs the I.c. engine when the battery is discharged to the safe limit. So, it won't run intermittently when it is used. The Volt also has logic that allows the engine to come up to temperature when it runs.
A, what did the Volt cost you? Wondering if maybe the Volt is right for us, or pay less and get the Jetta TDI Sportwagon.
That would absolutely be my dilemma if I were in the market.
What pushes the Volt ahead, in my opinion, is the straight-up cool factor. I would be able to commute to work and back for 3 days before even needing to plug in. Without using a drop of gasoline. That's pretty damn neat.
I've driven the recent Jetta TDIs and they really are fantastic cars. You're getting a way better payload, that's for sure.
Anorak, what's the tow rating on the Volt when using only the electric motor? Would it tow a couple bikes up a hill at 65 mph?
$43k including tax and license. You are going to pay a premium for the novelty of the Volt which may not be enough to justify the expense over the VW.
Towing is prohibited by GM. There is some discussion of it on the various forums but I have enough problems with membership in one forum so I don't pay much attention to others.
Ours listed at 43k (including a cover and other extra stuff) and we added the 8 year warrantee. We had a trade so it's hard to figure out what we paid. We got $5k more than book for our trade and I think a grand off the extra warrantee, so I assume that was the discount. Plus $7.5 in tax credits. When we bought, Volt sales were slow.
Other than the coolness and societal benefit of the Volt, it's difficult to cost justify compared to an economy car. I personally think the Volt compares well to an entry level Lexus or Infiniti.
We've found the operating costs to be minimal, since the commute is around 50 miles.
My round trip commute is about 24 miles across a bridge with a $6.00 toll and car pool lanes on the route. Currently, the Volt is exempt from the carpool regulations and bridge tolls. Motorcycles registered with the electronic toll payment system, FastTrack, use the car pool lane at the bridge toll plaza which still has a toll, $2.50. So, it's less expensive for me to drive to work than ride.
If you want to tow with a hybrid car (which a Volt is) you can pick up a couple year old Nissan Altima. They do have a tow rating of 1000 pounds. Not much but enough for a small trailer and a couple bikes.
Driving a Tahoe hybrid (another choice if you need to tow more) offroad is a bit strange. When you see zero oil pressure and it is completely fine it just goes against everything you should know about driving a vehicle.
I thought they got rid of all the exemptions for carpool on Bay Area bridges?
Maybe just for motorcycles?
Ouch! I was thinking somewhere around $33K would be more in line. Basically, a bit more than the Prius.
There are barely used ones from $30k
Interesting. There were 14 volts listed within 100 miles of me, and 45 Leafs, some for as low as $20k.
I the Leaf is a bigger seller, but the soggy resale is a surprise.
did anyone mention yet that a tdi will kick this cars ass ?