I bought one!

Discussion in 'Crazy-Awesome almost Dakar racers (950/990cc)' started by DELTATANGO, Aug 11, 2013.

  1. DELTATANGO

    DELTATANGO Motorcyclist and Dog Walk

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    I bought a 950ADV I think but it needs an engine.

    Anyone know where there is a good engine laying around?
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  2. DELTATANGO

    DELTATANGO Motorcyclist and Dog Walk

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    50 looks, no engine, not good.
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  3. Chuckracer

    Chuckracer Jerkus Maximus

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    Why do you think it needs an engine?
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  4. DELTATANGO

    DELTATANGO Motorcyclist and Dog Walk

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    The cam chain broke.

    It's a high mileage engine also.
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  5. Chuckracer

    Chuckracer Jerkus Maximus

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    Ah...you bought that '04 in the classifieds?
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  6. DELTATANGO

    DELTATANGO Motorcyclist and Dog Walk

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    yep
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  7. Themastermike

    Themastermike Passin gas

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    Goot luk
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    tacosupreme Been here awhile

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  9. DELTATANGO

    DELTATANGO Motorcyclist and Dog Walk

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  10. bikyto

    bikyto Dans le doute...gaz!

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    Well that one is fuel injected. So, you'd have to get the harness and a bunch of little parts here and there.
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  11. Themastermike

    Themastermike Passin gas

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    Sounds like he bought a complete bike so IT would have all the wiringneeded.

    I think the ignition system from the blown motor would need moved onto the new motor. Read that in a thread of a guy who switched from efi back to carbs on a bike.
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  12. bikyto

    bikyto Dans le doute...gaz!

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    The wire harness on the 990 is very different from the wire harness on the 950.
    I was assuming he would want to run the 990 engine as a fuel injected engine. If so, the 950 harness won't work.

    The 990 duke engine also has a different gear ratio btw, something to consider.

    But it's all doable!:1drink
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  13. Katoom72

    Katoom72 Been here awhile

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    2 options

    Part out the blown engine and sell the carbs, ecu and wiring loom of the 950 to fund the needed EFI wiring and ecu.

    Switch over the timingwheel and rejet the carbs for the superduke engine. Then part out the blown engine to minimize the price of the bought engine.
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  14. DELTATANGO

    DELTATANGO Motorcyclist and Dog Walk

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    I think I'll keep looking for a 950 engine or rebuild this one.
    I'm thinking now of a total rebuild.
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    Falconfixer It is what it is....

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    spencergt66 Been here awhile

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    You can use the 990 in a 950 been done quite a few times on here. Just switch the ignition PU use all the 950 parts everything else bolts up and or is the same duke engines have different tranny but u can use your old tranny if the price is right
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    What are the details on the motor. I think the parts. Bill on it would get high quick. Crash bike motor and put your carbs on. My opinion only.n. keep us posted
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  18. Orangecicle

    Orangecicle On a "Quest"

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    I rebuilt the top end of my 950 (top end only) due to an odd water/oil exchange that was going on. I have an idea of what it take to rebuild part of your motor:

    • Cams on the early 950 are notorious for going bad, and the solution is 990 cams ($450 minimum),
    • then you need the cam chains, guides, tensioners, and gaskets ($400 minimum),
    • if you broke a cam chain and shoved a valve into a piston ($ {bend over} ),
    • then you need to remove the engine and reinstall it ($ {price of your free labor in addition to the cost of ambulance ride to the hospital after throwing out your back}),
    • then you need the shop time cost for the tools you'll need to break down the engine and get stubborn things like the flywheel off ($ {price of either every KTM "special tool" in the book or the hourly rate of your friendly KTM mechanic}), and
    • of course you are going to have the ancillary issues of other new parts along the way. ($ {FML}).

    [​IMG]

    I wanted to preserve my 950 because . . . well, I'm anal. A normal person would have found a 990 and dropped it in by changing out a couple of parts.
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  19. DELTATANGO

    DELTATANGO Motorcyclist and Dog Walk

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    I picked it up today. I bought it from Mark, an inmate here, nice guy.

    The motor isn't grenaded like I expected. Mark drove it in the shop on one cylinder. The offending piston doesn't have a mark on it except for a crack along he skirt. It's the rear cylinder so the mechanic had to loosen the engine to get it apart. So the motor is nearly off.

    I was thinking initially that I would just fix the engine as it is but after I've thought more about it I'm thinking I should fix it more.

    What should I do? The mechanic suggested buying a $4700 crate engine. I don't thing so. I don't think.:lol3

    PS Tkx Orangecide.

    PPS The engine has 62k on it.
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  20. Orangecicle

    Orangecicle On a "Quest"

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    Read Pyndon's thread: http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=147440

    He documents a high-mileage rebuild on his engine. No major internal concerns -- just typical wear. At 62K, you will need new cam chains, new chain guides, probably new cam chain tensioners, new rings wouldn't be a bad idea, new valve seals, and other basics. Surface the heads when you put them back on. If that damaged piston damaged the nikasil on the cylinder wall, you need a new cylinder for that jug. Nothing too major. But, you will spend $2,000 even doing a lot of the work yourself.

    Also check out this thread: http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=633576

    which documents a "non-rebuild" on a bike with more than 89K on it. The new owner basically fixed a wiring problem . . . and rode it.
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