I had to lay 'er down

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by slide, Apr 2, 2013.

  1. Zerk

    Zerk DILLIGAF

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    What if he was looking at another vehicle on his side that was getting to close?


    So have people here given up on the idea that braking is always the best practice, and moved on to simply finding blame with the accident? Is this also done, with people don't lay it down?
  2. Hurricane Bob

    Hurricane Bob Long timer

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    Don't forget about having to lay'er down when there's no reason to....you know, for practice!:freaky


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  3. Bill Harris

    Bill Harris Confirmed Curmudgeon

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    That is scary. Dropping bikes for no (good) reason.

    Wet pavement, slowing onto an Interstate off-ramp, it looks like the first "flying walenda" hit the rear brake too hard, locking the rear wheel. Rear end came around to the right, he tried to do the Flat Track Left Foot Slide, but his boot had better traction and he got torn off the bike. The second rider had the same type of panic reaction. And the first bike seems to have been trying to right itself, I wonder if it tried to collide with the rest of the parade ahead? :evil

    If I didn't know better I'd think that was staged for the camera... the timing, camera angles and all were just too perfect.

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  4. AzItLies

    AzItLies Been here awhile

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    That does seem to be about the best assessment one can make. It's just all of a sudden the rear tire is locked and appears to be smoking a bit from the slide.

    Always kind of a shock seeing riders come to the Experienced Rider Course (now called BRC2), get to the emergency braking, and do nothing more than lock up the rear wheel. Tire smoking and sliding all over the place. Never even touch the front brake...

    Cheers
  5. slide

    slide A nation with a future

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    It's not a what if. He was looking at buildings at the side of the road.

    If you read this thread through, you'd have read that after I stepped him through a few times, he admitted it was poor braking rather than anything else which led to the crash. He did the rear brake mash / skid / release / high side.
  6. DAKEZ

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    Not "always"... There are no absolutes when it comes to riding. Besides, I go to twisting the right grip more often than I go for the right lever. :ricky
  7. N-m

    N-m Captain 2 Sexy

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    This is actually an excellent training film in how to handle a dangerous situation. Notice the first rider after the two that got off their bikes avoided FOUR obstacles moving at speed and in random patterns while NEVER laying down his bike. Throttle, brakes and maneuvers saved the day for the last rider.
  8. slide

    slide A nation with a future

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    What caused the first bike to go dowm?
  9. Bar None

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    Nope, he should have layed er down.
  10. Prettyboy

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    Just throwing out a bit of trolling here, but it seems to me this is just a subcultural lingo much like around here people seem to say "I had a high speed get off" rather than saying they crashed, or "I stress tested my jacket." I don't think they are implying that is on purpose, and I honestly doubt that many of the guys who "lay 'er down" honestly believe that was the best option.
  11. Zerk

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    I don't think the guy in the video layed it down. I think he fell off. Why is a good question.
  12. Bill Harris

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    And the way that the first guy who laiderdown skillfully bounced under the second laiderdowner's bouncing bike.

    --Bill
  13. Prettyboy

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    This is shown in the fact that the bike continued for some time mostly upright as he bounced around.
  14. AzItLies

    AzItLies Been here awhile

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    Do you think it's possible the guy in the video said later:

    "Someone in front of me slowed so quickly! I had to lay er down"

    Cheers
  15. Andyvh1959

    Andyvh1959 Cheesehead Klompen

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    A bit hard to tell in the video, but I think the first bike to go down was caused by the rider CLAMPING on the front brake. Looks to me like a puff of tire smoke at the front tire, then it washes out with the bike going slideways.

    I came across a crashed sportbike on the side of a long straight section of road. His buddies all around him on the shoulder, his GSXR wadded up in the ditch. Nobody said anything about animals. No cars involved, clear straight road, bright dry day, about noon.

    All I could guess is he was mid-pack, got on it hard to catch up, caught up way too quick, and "adjusted" by clamping on the front brake.
  16. slide

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    I saw that puff from the rear tire, not the front. I'm going to guess that this cause of this crash same as the OP. The guy locked the rear wheel, released and then lost it.
  17. ozmoses

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    Which is exactly what I thought but seeing it in print made me actually lol.

    Maybe there was debris on the road and he panicked?
  18. Zerk

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    Maybe he had a medical event, before he fell off.

    Maybe he Armoralled the seat.
  19. 1911fan

    1911fan Master of the Obvious

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    Friend of mine, also a Harley rider, passed like that. The rider behind him saw his right foot fall off the peg, he sort of slumped partway off the bike, then veered right through a guardrail and ......
    He'd been having little episodes previously, and I'm sure that's the way he wanted to go. Out with friends, then lights out.



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  20. BanjoBoy

    BanjoBoy Been here awhile

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    :roflHarlet bros;
    theyz sooooo cool stand'in round the *$s in their silly little chaps 'n pudd'in bowl helmets, and theyz sooooo cool bounce'in down da road! :rofl