I Kind of Want an FN Five Seven...

Discussion in 'Shiny Things' started by Nailhead, Dec 12, 2012.

  1. CodeMonkee

    CodeMonkee Geek Adventurer

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2001
    Oddometer:
    5,672
    Location:
    Orygun
    But the reviews I have read (IIRC) state the trigger is gross - due to the design of the revolver.
    #21
  2. CodeMonkee

    CodeMonkee Geek Adventurer

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2001
    Oddometer:
    5,672
    Location:
    Orygun
    The idea (sharing ammo, a hi-vel .22) of the Five-Seven pistol and the PS90 appeal to me.

    The reality of it is that there are problems - at least for me.

    First, the ergos of the PS90 don't work for me - at all; the grip is just plain uncomfortable. If they had made it more conventional then I could maybe work with it, but every time I pick one up it just doesn't fit my hands. I like bullpups - a lot, but not this one.

    The Five Seven pistol is okay, but again I don't care for the grip (it is not horrible like the PS90, but not good either, but I like my SIG better). The Five Seven is a combat pistol and the 5.7x28 appeals to me partly for small game hunting. The accuracy of the pistol is lacking for hunting - it just won't work for that.

    Another company was making a Five-Seven auto pistol that supposedly was designed for accuracy, but I read they had nothing but problems in the few they sold.

    So - either way, this combo doesn't work for me. I wish it did. I know that there is a company that makes a 5.7 upper for the AR that uses the PS90 mag (another nice thing about the PS90), and it reportedly works well, but I am not a fan of the AR platform (although I will probably own one someday just to have the versatility of all the uppers available for them, I did shoot them in the military so I have some hands on experience with them) and it isn't a bullpup.
    #22
  3. Fubars

    Fubars What would Scoobydo?

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2003
    Oddometer:
    1,789
    Location:
    Ventuna, California
    I don't reload, so my head was spinning in the middle of that video. But when he hit that 100 yard plate, I sobered up. Thanks for posting the link.
    #23
  4. ktrout01

    ktrout01 Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2009
    Oddometer:
    766
    Location:
    Bristol, CT - Home of ESPN and not much else

    And I thought 5.56 and 7.62 were a pain in the ass !
    #24
  5. JamesG

    JamesG Rabid Poster

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2006
    Oddometer:
    10,946
    Location:
    Columbus, GA
    The actuation design is... complicated, but the actual shooting reviews don't complain about that. I think most of the bad comments about the trigger came from people who fondled this cutaway demo and assumed that the production "real" guns would have the same feel...

    [​IMG]

    Anyway, just a suggestion for Nikons.
    #25
  6. Mambo Dave

    Mambo Dave Backyard Adventurer

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2011
    Oddometer:
    6,039
    Location:
    11 ft. AMSL
    Thank you so much for this.

    I, too, was contemplating the 5.7 pistol just because I could reload it...

    Um, screw that sh*t. I reload .223 for my AR, and based on that video I agree that the 5.7 process is more for people who love reloading as a hobby (not SHOOTING as a hobby - people new to the processes need to realize the difference between the two types of people who reload). There are guys who love to get lost in the process of it, but I reload for the functionality of it.

    Any round or weapon-platform that needs a special polymer coating on the brass isn't a platform I trust will be around a very long time just due to the costs of ammo and difficulty in reloading. This looks like a wildcat round that the current masses have been sold on just like popular wildcat rounds of the past that you just can't drive 10 to 30 miles to find ammo for anymore. Sure, that old stuff is out there, but you have to go through more to get it.

    The .17 HMR is almost just as interesting to me, but for 50 rounds at $2 less than the cost of 500 .22 long-rifle rounds... both rimfire... it's just crazy. I think the thing to keep in mind about both the .17HMR and the 5.7 rounds is that they were born in a time of prosperity, and now when the going gets tough for the average shooter, these boutique rounds and weapon platforms end up being just kinda of dumb for anyone other than collectors or the wealthy.

    Too, some guys get their 'fun' by owning weapons that they aren't shooting thousands of rounds out of each year. With all but two of my current weapons that isn't really 'fun' to me.

    #26
  7. Nailhead

    Nailhead Free at last!

    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2003
    Oddometer:
    6,403
    Location:
    Longmont, CO
    Hmmm... interesting.

    Thanks for posting that.
    #27
  8. NikonsAndVStroms

    NikonsAndVStroms Beastly Photographer

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2007
    Oddometer:
    42,092
    Location:
    The Hub of the Universe
    A big difference it has from the .17 HMR is the 5.7 is a military round so reloading/lack of civilian buyers wont be a problem for production as the vast majority is being sold to governments.
    #28
  9. pilot

    pilot Slacker Moderator Super Moderator

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2002
    Oddometer:
    32,533
    Location:
    Kansas City
    My opinion is from only shooting a few rounds at the range with the 5-7. It is loud. Extremely loud. As in, way to fuckin' loud. No thanks, I'm deaf enough.
    #29
  10. Mambo Dave

    Mambo Dave Backyard Adventurer

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2011
    Oddometer:
    6,039
    Location:
    11 ft. AMSL
    That may be the weapon systems, or muzzle brakes, they are being fired from, too. To me a .223 fired through most AR15's sounds far louder than it should... like louder than a .30-06. But through my buddy's bolt-action .223 I don't think it's nearly as offensive to the people next to it.
    #30
  11. HardCase

    HardCase winter is coming

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2004
    Oddometer:
    11,104
    Location:
    Griz Country
    It definitely is loud, and the crack has a higher pitch than, say, a 9 or 40 or 45. But it really isn't a problem with decent hearing protection, which we need to wear anytime we shoot, even a .22. Unfortunately, as a youth and young man I spent too much time shooting without any hearing protection, in civilian life and in the Army, and now have some tinitis to prove it.
    #31
  12. BigIron

    BigIron Tenured Prof - Leghump U.

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2006
    Oddometer:
    901
    I'll let you know soon. Whoops.
    #32
  13. Toadady

    Toadady Push'n parts

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2003
    Oddometer:
    4,135
    Location:
    Southern Missouri
    friend of mine sells the AR-5-7 .

    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/B1njDwsmx9c" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
    #33