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Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by stripple, Apr 11, 2013.
You can have my GSXR1000 for $6500!
My man, I'm not upset. I suppose that I'm just trying to head off another 7 page argument.
And, I suppose that I take issue a bit with people saying that it's silly to use a SS for this purpose. As I write that I realize that it actually is. But, I don't so much like being told what's best for me. I understand where you're coming from thought. It's all good.
We should talk.
First I need to know where "internet heaven" is...
You aren't going to get V-twin like tall, the primary is usually shorter and the transmission will be closer ration normally, mainly because your operating range from a normal big bore twin to a 1000cc I-4 is possibly 30-40%, the red lines on the I-4s are frequently in the neighborhood of 12,000.
I was more commenting on what changing the bike does to the chassis, all of the super sports are front end biased weightwise, this is by design, it helps to keep the front on the ground under throttle. When the rider sits straight up on the bike is IS more likely to try to walk around. Luggage is really neither hear nor there, they actually handle faster as you add weight high on the bike, it less effect than a passenger, unless your passenger is a 6 year old.
The pegs can be dropped, GSXRs are actually fairly forgiving as far as seat to peg clearance usually. You want no seat to peg distance try a R6 or 675 Daytona. On my Daytona my knees are actually higher than my elbows when I tuck in....I think my pegs are an inch and a half taller than stock (its a track bitch)
I had the same requirements as you, a bike without compromises that I could make more comfortable rather than starting out with something softer and never getting the power to weight ratio like the litre bike guys. I "settled" for a K5 GSXR 1000. I am about 5' 8" and a stocky 200lb. I am surprised that the reach to the bars doesn't bother me at all. The peg height is higher than the zzr1100 I still have but it also isn't too bad. Buell pegs should sort it. As I am comfortable (mostly) after 2 hours I'm not going to bother with bars. I can understand how taller guys would need them. I've never done more than 300 miles in a day so I'm not a long distance expert like some guys here.
My search narrowed down to k1-k6 gsxr 1000's because of the long stroke motor. In 2007 they went shorter stroke for more top end and less bottom. The k1-k4 have more bottom end then k5/k6. They are all monsters. A sneeze at 75mph will have you looking at 90mph on the display. It can lug at 30mph in 6th no problem. Very tractable engine. And in the higher rpm range . . . . holy fuck!
Because I make no bones about being a racer or a talented rider I actually disagree with most people and say they are too low geared for cruising in 6th. On the rode the close 4th-5th-6th doesn't make sense like on track, unless you like riding at high rpm all the time. The k3/k4 I know have a lower first and a higher 6th. Furthermore, you can get a robinsons first gear which is lower yet. Then with sprockets gear it back up to stock first gear ratio. Then the rest of the gears will be more spaced and more sport touring oriented. It might not pull the theoretical 200mph in 6th but I don't care, I'll leave it in 5th if I want to do 180mph (which I don't). This would provide a less buzzy ride and better mpg. Probably cost prohibitive but I think this would complete the ultimate sports tourer. If I lived in the states and had money I would build this tranny for big mileage.
Having said all that, my zzr1100 can keep up until 80mph because it doesn't wheelie like the gixxer being more front weight biased and easier to launch. The zzr11 and zzr12 are motorcycling bargains and you can have just as much fun on other bikes by adjusting riding styles and what you do with them.
Sorry Stripple I was just joshing DALMATINO. Bike isn't for sale right now, I like it too much. Must say the bike would be ideal for you. Never taken over 3000 rpm, oil changed every 100 miles, and most definately never wheelied. Just bought some engine case savers to protect it should it fall off the stand in a parking lot.
If DALMATINO ever sells a bike, buy it. It'll be the sweetest handling, tuned motorcycle you'll ever own.
How dare you....
Nahh you wouldnt want that thing anyway stripple, it's all carboned up and babied he can be quite the shit desturber.
Come across the border here in AB or BC and pick one up if you cant find one localy. Try Kijiji might b few for sale there. Just be patient and wait for the right one.
That's easy, ever heard of an Italian tune up
Well should be putting on my Airhorn this weekend and hopefully finish up the wiring to the hard luggage.
Very good info on this thread, but there was one thing I keep wondering about. Tires?!?!?!!?
I run Pilot Powers 2ct on the street and track and get good mileage out of them, 5 to 6k on the front 3 to 3.5 on the rear when I first got the bike. Now that I do more long distance stuff I am getting the same out the front and about 500 to 1k miles more out the rear.
Question being, I want to get some Sport Touring tires that will last longer than that. I won't need the 2cts because I don't push the bike on the street at all anymore. I think I could get away with some harder compound tires.
Any thoughts? Suggestions?
I've had positive experiences with Pilot Road 2's on my Tuono. Got almost 9K out of my last rear and they're more than sticky enough for moderately aggressive riding. They are still dual compound, just harder than the P. Powers.
Yep that long stroke motor is totally tits, big wet sloppy tits. One of the the best sportbike motors ever built for the street. It's a shame they always need to change things instead of making what already works even better
Pilot Road 2 or 3s. I run 2s, cheaper and get slightly better mileage. 3s are better for rain though.
I just thought of a great benefit for toruing on a sportbike. Tire life! you will probably wear out the side and the center at about the same time. Bike ass bikes like mine will run down the middle long before the sides are all cupped and jacked.
Michelin pilot road 3
Dunlop road smart 2
Pirelli angel st
Bridgstone bt 023
You get good tiers from any one of those. I have now Dunlop road smart 1 and il bee changing in a couple of weeks, i am gona try Z8 this time.
I am very pleasd with the Dunlop but i have heard so much great about Metzler that i hav to see how it is.
Kawasaki Z1000 by Southwade, on Flickr
^cool bike southwade. I recognize that user name from svrider a few years ago.
yes and no, the thing is most I4's are so smooth at 3500rpm there is really no difference in the real world. It's not complaining or wheezing at all. Right now I'm on a 990 superduke, lots of torque way down low, but not much more useable than my old R1. The problem is the rest of the bike can't put down that power anyways. Coming out of a corner and picking up the throttle, it is not as confidence inspiring. The engineering and quality isn't at the same level as a modern sport bike.
Wasn't me... I've never owned a SV.
2000 CBR929RR 434lbs wet
2002 CBR954RR 429lbs wet
2004/5 CBR1KRR 466lbs wet
2006/7 CBR1KRR 451lbs wet
2008 CBR1KRR 439lbs wet
2012 GSXR 1k 448lbs wet
2012 ZX10 437lbs wet
Here's a pic of my pig
BTW I too am considering an LSL kit and better seat for distance touring if I don't sell it that is.
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