I want a Vespa

Discussion in 'Battle Scooters' started by BigCanoe, Oct 2, 2017.

  1. BigCanoe

    BigCanoe Fickle bike owner

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    Hi all,

    I had a Zuma 125, but found it a little too small in frame and engine for my needs. I am looking at Vespa's now. I like the style of them. Particularly the GT/GTS 200/250. Also, the Genuine Stella's too. I havent ridden any yet. Can anyone comment on the size/fit of these for a 5'11" 215lbs rider?
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  2. CaptnJim

    CaptnJim Scootist

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    I'm guessing Jerry will have some good info for you - he owned a Zuma, now has a Vespa and a Stella.
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  3. klaviator

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    I'm 6-2, 34" inseam. I have sat on many Vespa's, both the small frame 150's as well as the bigger ones. There was plenty of room for me so you should be fine. You still need to sit on them yourself to see if you will be comfortable.
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    Great scooters! Make sure you do your homework to understand the differences (pros/cons) between the GT Leader engine and the GTS 250/300 Quasar engines.
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  5. Jimo368

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    I had a Zuma 50cc two stroke and have a GTS250 now. I’m 5-9” and think you would be fine on it. It’s a great machine. BD4A4321-FED9-436B-BB0B-391B8038EED1.png
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  6. theloop

    theloop Been here awhile

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    I'm also thinking about getting a Vespa. I have a CB500x and it is killing my hip riding it, I found a new leftover 2015 Sprint 150 3V ABS for $3,999.00 plus $395 freight and $199 set up fee, is this a good price, and was wondering if it would fit a 5' 11" rider, always solo. A PCX 150 seemed to cramped for me.
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  7. BigCanoe

    BigCanoe Fickle bike owner

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    Is the GT the 200? I would prefer FI too!
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    Research . . wobble . . throttle body cost.
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  9. BigCanoe

    BigCanoe Fickle bike owner

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    Dang, thats alot for one part! It looks like I do have some research to do. I wonder if the 150 would be enough oomp vs the Zuma 125. I think the Stella is 150ccs too. Also considering a Genuine Hooligan. Though, I prefer scooters that look more traditional, the Zuma 125 being one exception.
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    http://modernvespa.com/forum/topic75419

    On some years there was a fuel pump recall. Some rectifier problems. I bought a GT 200 partially because I've heard they were less prone to issues. I've been very happy with it. Decel wobble may happen to some, but I've tried to induce and have not been able to wobble. Hard decel one handed on bumpy roads. Nothing. Maybe it'll happen someday with all the right conditions. Thinking it's like the "dohickey" for KLR guys. Talked about a lot.
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  12. Smaug1

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    Those are sharp-looking bikes, but like most Asian scooters, legroom is not their strong point.

    I rode several hours with a couple who have them at a recent rally, and had a sit on them. I'm 5'8" tall, with a 29" inseam. I had enough legroom, but not a lot to spare.

    If Vespas prove to be too expensive, consider Piaggio too. The Italian bikes tend to longer-legged westerners better. I sat on recent 150 and 300 cc Vespas and a new Piaggio Liberty 150, and they all have more legroom than any of the Japanese competition. I think you'd be fine.
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  13. pnw

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    Were they the old Like 200i or the new 150i abs? The new ones have been released within only less than a month ago, I wonder if the ergonomics are the same since reviewers had no complaints.
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    Heck if you're not married to the old Vespa look & you want to buy new, maybe take a look at the Piaggio Liberty 150, or an HD200 if you have a SYM dealer handy. Think those are the only two big wheel bikes in the market at the moment.
    If you can deal with a more asian maxi scootish look there's a variety of bikes in the 300is range out there right now. That's a bit of a sweet spot since they are freeway capable, but still fairly light.

    Far as the big wheel vs. small wheel thing goes. Big 'un's are more stable at speed, & go over potholes better. Small ones maneuver quicker. There are long threads on this, & I always recommend trying both.

    RE: Kymco Like's
    Those were likely the earlier model, not the brand new current one. They changed 'em significantly for the 2018 model year, & the first one in the country that I'm aware of popped up at Amerivespa.
    I posted a link to a kinda meh review from a motorcyclist on the bike over in the Kymco forum. There are a couple folks who've bought 'em I believe in both of these forums so I'll defer to them on any actual dimensions and fit.

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  15. rider33

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    I have a GL200 (large frame) my daughter has an LX50 (small frame). I would say if you are north of 5'10" you would for sure want a large frame, a lot more room. I'm 6'2"/225# by the way and own multiple bikes, the smallest of which is the Vespa. It also happens to be perhaps the most comfortable: flatish seat, bolt upright, plenty of room to move around, bars just where they should be. Zuma's are a lot of fun but the large frame Vespa is in a different class all together, like going from a Chevy to a Cadillac. Used ones show up at times with silly-low miles, I'd keep an eye out on Craig's List, particularly as we head into the cooler months.
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  16. cdwise

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    Vespa's 150s have more ump than the Zuma 125. Stella probably less. From the Genuine line take a good look at the Buddy but it is a smaller scooter so you'd need to sit on one to see how it fits vs the Vespa which is better for taller riders.

    FWIW, in 10+ years owning a Vespa GTS I never replaced the throttle body and rarely hear of anyone who has over on Modern Vespa. Most common parts to be replaced are voltage regulator $90, spark plug cap $10 though I did have to replace my fuel injector $60 oh and fuel lines deteriorate and need to be replaced ever 6-8 years, not particularly expensive. Some people in wet climates who never use it have had to replace the kill switch when its contacts have become corroded $15.

    Wobble, some people never experience it and others say it happens to them all the time. All I know is that the only time I had "the wobble" was if my tires were grossly underinflated. Personally I prefer the handling slightly over inflated so it hasn't been an issue for me on any of the Vespas I've owned. Even then if you have even the lightest touch with one hand you the wobble isn't an issue. I don't know about you but riding hands free isn't something I do.

    GT is carbed, GTS/GTV is fuel injected.
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  17. cheapeto

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    I've been giving the leary eye towards them also.
    I've never been to an Amerivespa rally/show, but the next one is in Virginia, Richmond June 8-10 maybe.
    It's only about 200 miles south, a beautiful ride down,through Maryland, if I skirt the west side of the DC parking lot.

    I'm just wanting to see as many makes and models as possible at one place, and what is what.
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    At risk of sounding like a Vespa fanboy, I'll add that if you plan to keep it for a while, a Vespa might be an even better choice. That body work is structural and metal, it holds up quite well. My 2008 looks quite good after 11,000 miles of service. The models tend to be in production for a long time and have classic lines as well, if you park my GL (the origional large frame) next to the lastest GTS you'd be hard pressed to tell them apart. 'Pretty sure I could pull that puppy out if the garage some fine spring morning in 2027 and it will look and run just fine, Some of the edgier designs tend to get dated pretty quick.
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  19. HelloPitty

    HelloPitty Motorbike Enthusiast

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    I have had a few people try my GTS, none quite matching your height/weight, but close.
    You're going to find out that the GTS will tote you around with ease and with power to spare.

    Ergonomics are so subjective, but I find the ride quite comfortable and prefer it over some of my other motorbikes.
    If maintained well, they hold their value; especially if you purchase used. First owner takes the depreciation hit as usual.

    I know what it's like to want a Vespa, it gets to you and you just have to get one. Hope you find one should you decide to go forward.
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    There's some reall good advice here from @HelloPitty and @cdwise. My advise is more rudimentary, purchase exactly what melts your butter. It is so much more enjoyable to just get what you really want damn the statistics.
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