I want a Vespa

Discussion in 'Battle Scooters' started by BigCanoe, Oct 2, 2017.

  1. scootermann

    scootermann Been here awhile

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    The turn signal/running lights are LED. The headlight, I believe, is OEM (on high-beam).
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  2. kantuckid

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    To determine the ergonomics of any two wheels- you must sit on the machine-which has been suggested already, I'm just adding the "must!" to my comment. Legs matter as much as overall height, as does build like thick legs, big gut, or not, so on... Arm length also matters a bunch. On a Vespa short arms are not a problem, MC's it can be and may require handlebar setbacks/risers. I can see an exceptionally long legged, long armed person being jammed up on a Vespa?
    At 5' 8.5" (shrinking daily in 70's, oh for the days I was 5'9.5":-)) with 29' inseam, 210#'s, I have lots of room and really enjoy the pep I get from my 2010 300 GT Vespa. Taller riders can sit back and gain leg/knee space. Being closer to the ground is handy vs. the MC when you are on uneven ground like crummy shoulder areas to pull off for a bit. I just got in from a 1,000 mile ride on my motorcycle in a pointedly mountain roads route from KY, across WV/VA and return. This was my first longer ride in a good while due to surgeries and reality that I ride my scoot for commuter rides by choice. For my short legs the Vespa just makes for a much easier machine to handle overall at slow or no speed.
    I gotta say I'm becoming a scoot guy more all the time. The handling of the Vespa combined with it's snappy performance makes for a fun experience.
    If you count your money to any serious degree the number of low mileage Vespas for sale makes it a no-brainer for me over a newer, cheaper, brand choices-assuming the appeal is there.
    The one glaring shortcoming of my Vespa is the tiny gas tank! I did 5 fillups to cover my 1,000 mile trip on the MC -BMW G650GS does ~ 200 miles per tank. Vespa e.g. is I ride to a medical appt., etc., in Lexington,KY which is ~ 65 miles for me one way and often must buy gas to get there and to get home-and have any left upon return. Granted I ride it like I stole it so MPG isn't brag worthy.
    Like CDwise says, 80 plus MPH is easy peasy on my Vespa on I roads and I must say it handles wind buffeting from 18 wheelers as well as my MC.
    IMO the Vespa engineers wouldn't have built the speed in if the machine wasn't capable with endurance.
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  3. BigCanoe

    BigCanoe Fickle bike owner

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    Yep I definitely need to see if i fit!
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  4. scootermann

    scootermann Been here awhile

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    What Jerry says is very true. I bought a perfect 2-year old GTV with lots of extras for $4,200. Only had 6K on the clock. My Majesty had less than 400 miles and I got it for less than half new. You may have to wait to find a really good deal but if you are ready to pounce, they are there... Just sayin'
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  5. BigCanoe

    BigCanoe Fickle bike owner

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    Ya I am looking to spend $3600 or less, so I am definitely looking at used, once I sell my XT.
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  6. td63

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    Yep: this. I nearly bought a Chinese scoot but knew I'd spend every day wishing I'd just gone ahead and gotten a Vespa. I mean, when I go to Europe I take pics of Vespas, not Kymcos.

    I got a 2006 GT200 for $2,200 and put in maybe another $500 in maintenance. Put 12,000 miles on it since getting it in March of 2016. Looooove it!
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  7. BigCanoe

    BigCanoe Fickle bike owner

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    Good question, there is an ET4 for sale around here too, looks nice but a little small?
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  8. Mudboot

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    Checked one out today, fair -good condition. Tires rotting. Ok pickup( I'm a LARGE dude). more room in cockpit than I imagined. Meh..maybe a 250 -300 would suit me better. Many scratches, owner would knock off $100 for tires... not a bargain in my view for a 16 year old machine. Next..
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  9. BigCanoe

    BigCanoe Fickle bike owner

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    Interesting, is it the seat, body, spacing, or just bigger engine that leads you to the 250-300?
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  10. Mudboot

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    Bigger engine mainly, 150 would be ok for 45 MPH roads here. Seat was comfy ,didn't feel cramped ( surprised me) not sure I follow your spacing question. Body size was fine, liked the kickstarter. Ride itself was pretty smooth on our less than stellar roads. If it wasn't so scratched up and the price was fair it would be in my garage for spring.. I have driven a Forza and Pcx last year both peppier than this ET4 on initial acceleration.
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  11. rider33

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    the small and the large frame Vespa's look very similar from a distance but park them side-by-side and the difference is quite noticeable, the small frame looks like a 3/4 scale version of the large frame. If you are
    under 5'8" that may not matter, if you are north of 6' it does. In terms of power there is no comparison. A 200-300 (what the large frames pack, depending on the vintage) will wIl away from a 50-150, particularly above 45 MPM.
    It's really about proportion: a smaller person will look/feel just fine on a small frame, particularly if most of the duty is in the city below 50. A large person will look/fit better on a large frame and it's perfectly happy to cruise down the highway at 65-70 all day long. When Vespa launched the large frame there stated goal at the time was to make a lager bike suitable for touring, that's why the origional model was called a 'Granturismo', or grand tourer.

    http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/2007-vespa-granturismo-review
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  12. BigCanoe

    BigCanoe Fickle bike owner

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    Thats a good post. I would like to see some pictures of the large and small side by side, would be interesting.
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  13. Fiftygrit

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    Hope this helps a bit.

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    Fiftygrit Been here awhile

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  15. rider33

    rider33 Long timer

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    this might help, an LX next to a GTS:

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    Here's a comparison chart with GT200, LX150 and ET4. From "Scoot!" magazine.
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  17. BigCanoe

    BigCanoe Fickle bike owner

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    Awesome, thanks guys, those pics and specs help alot!
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  18. longslowdistance

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    Suggest add the GTS Super to your evaluation list. I suggest that only because I tried them all and coming from a motorcycle for me it was a no brainer. YMMV.
    Given your body build, I'll double down on this recommendation.
    2 years and 2500 miles so far, not the longest evaluation, but FWIW I am 100% satisfied, and I'm not easily satisfied. If it vanished I'd buy another tomorrow without hesitation.
    Yes it's expensive.

    BTW, 300 GTS and 300 GTS Super handle differently. The Super is sportier and IMO better if you want to go faster. But less plush going slow on cobblestones.
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  19. gogogordy

    gogogordy Long timer

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    Exactly. There are lots of scooter brands out there, but there is only one "Vespa".
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  20. 87112

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    I missed out on a 2016 70th Anniversary 300 with only 100 miles for 5900. Missed it by 2 days. Thats about the absoulute most I would pay for a Vespa 300.
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