I want I want I want - new(er) bike advice

Discussion in 'New Zealand' started by Mark_S, Mar 2, 2013.

  1. Mark_S

    Mark_S Fair Weather Faggot

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    Its funny how our preconceptions shape our bike lust.
    I'd like to ride a Harley but I'd never own one simply as I believe (mistakenly or otherwise) that all harley owners are wankers. Same with R1200GS owners - (only if their owners have bmw riding jackets though)

    if you buy a cruiser you will be banned from this forum (more preconceptions - all cruiser riders are wankers... - its amazing how many other riders who I know nothing about simply must be wankers because of the bikes they ride...)

    wouldn't you classify your airhead as a naked bike?

    Admittedly I would be very unlikely to buy any road bike that didn't have some sort of wind protection - I like my comfort.

    Got 2 bandits lined up to look at in Napier/Hastings on Sat morning so looks like I'll be up at sparrows fart so I can get there via and interesting route...
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  2. Crisis management

    Crisis management Latte riders FTW!

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    Having just found this and in a similar wander away from real adventure bikes I have few suggestions.
    Before I try and confuse you, my current do anything is a 1983 R80rt without the fairings, goes on any road (19" front), does commuting, touring and is soon to have it's track day debut which should prove "interesting". It's pretty average at everything but always entertaining.


    Get bigger capacity, torque is good and 100hp is a fairly balanced amount of power, lots of fun but you can't really get into trouble. The 80 I'm currently riding is gutless at 60 odd HP, tapped out at 150kms and needs a hill to pass anything.
    Try for a larger front wheel if you can for the ability to ride back roads, 17" rims do work in gravel at a push but you need a level of commitment that puts me in an uncomfortable spot.
    There are a ton of older UJMs out there for 5k that would go for years and anywhere, if your not sure what you want just get something and thrash it,: RF 900, ST2, any unfaired 750, Kawasaki 1100 / eddie lawson replica thingy.
    Given an open budget now, I would look at a 950/990 Ktm on street tyres, tighter budget - the tiger or strom.

    Failing that, find something that seduces you and enjoy the riding.
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  3. clintnz

    clintnz Trans-Global Chook Chaser

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  4. Box'a'bits

    Box'a'bits In need of repair

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    Fixed. You may also be able to go on Hormone replacement therapy...

    There also a nice looking one down in Invergiggle for $11k. Advertised via facebook, so let me know if you want contact details.

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  5. Mark_S

    Mark_S Fair Weather Faggot

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    Once upon a time I would have been interested. Whats interesting/weird is the way the prices for Buells have stayed relatively high. Don't these people know that they own orphans that no dealer gives a rats back passage about?

    can you imagine trying to get parts from a HD dealer. After 15 minutes of waiting leaning on the parts counter the bearded, pony-tailed overweight parts guy would finally stop talking to his tattooed biker buddy and look at you with a 'yeah bud' . You'd ask for a buell part - see his face register 'fuckwit' and say 'not in stock bud' before turning back to his harley buddy.
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  6. Mark_S

    Mark_S Fair Weather Faggot

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    you complain about 60hp - try overtaking a long line of cars with 40 romping stomping ponies.

    While I don't mind tatty bikes if I'm the one thats made them tatty I really can't get that excited about tidying up someone else's cast off - so that mean fairly low (sub 30k or so) km and probably max 5-7 years old so that kind of narrows the field a bit.

    I'd love to find a 955 tiger in the lower half of the North Island to take for a strop. A strom makes so much sense but unfortunately I think they look hideous.

    like the add says - "It's a hard road finding the perfect woman...
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  7. trustme

    trustme Long timer

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    http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/tourers/auction-547615691.htm

    It's too old ,It would give you a feel, the steamers were a little , mmmm , well , almost but not quite.
    The late model 955 had the bugs sorted, keep the battery charged . Parts can be spendy , the 20k service can be pricey if you can't do valve shims. Any modern ' hook it up to a puter to tune it ' bike is great till things go wrong
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  8. Night Falcon

    Night Falcon Tiger Tamer

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    I know, I know, its hard to believe that an idle remark about lazy engines can lead to such a catastrophic end, but look what happened when Rutherford casually split an atom :kboom
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  9. Mark_S

    Mark_S Fair Weather Faggot

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    thanks for that - hadn't seen that because my tardme searches start at 2003. I would go and test ride it except I test rode a R1200ST from there a week or two ago - they might actually expect me to spend money with them if I keep test riding bikes.....

    $9.5k for a 14yr old imported bike with 33k seems to have lost touch with reality somewhat.
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  10. stegs

    stegs Been here awhile

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    620 Multistrada - does everything you want to do and even fits the price range though not quite the 2007 deadline. But I am biased.

    (Apologies if already mentioned)
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  11. Padmei

    Padmei enamoured

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    Frick me I thought that mangled 1150GS mongrel on KB was ugly - at least that was fun ugly, there's no excuse for that:lol3

    The old tigers are cool but as you say are overpriced - May reflect the owners age- needing to cash in their investments for retirement
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  12. bart-nz

    bart-nz Been here awhile

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  13. NordieBoy

    NordieBoy Armature speller

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    Big Dave went on the XB12??? ride in Oz and it was on a lot of gravel and dirt and no blet problems on any of the bikes.
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  14. bikemoto

    bikemoto Tyre critic

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    Rutherford never split an atom. His musings led to the work that proved it possible and then made it happen.
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    I spose you gonna claim it was an Australian who split the atom. :rofl

    Pretty sure my next bike will be a road bike, probarbly regret it but, meh.

    Quite like the big gsx1400 type naked ones.

    Marks, what about a Bonnie?
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  16. Ducatijim

    Ducatijim Hopeless Poseuer!

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    Buell ulysses xt is the answer Mark.

    :clap
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  17. Underground

    Underground unbefuckingbelievable

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    140/80 Mark
    I'd like one of the older model VFR750's for a road bike they go for ever and you can pick up a mint one for real cheap.....but then I have a thing for old Hondas
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  18. Mark_S

    Mark_S Fair Weather Faggot

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    I don't think they've been mentioned but aren't they pretty rare in NZ?. A 1000S (flash suspension) Multistrada sold for $6200-$6300 in Kapiti a week or two ago. Problem was it had 45k km and was a bit tired.

    Triumph triples certainly hold their value - certainly any low km ones seems to be outside my budget

    For the small amount of gravel I'm envisioning I don't think it would be a problem. Buell's are not an option simply because they are orphans


    I like recent triumph twins but good low k ones are at the top of my budget and they have horrible rear suspension stock (well the scrambler I rode did) and need prolly a grand or so spent sorting the suspension out.

    There is certainly strong appeal to the big UJM's - honest what you see is what you get bikes.

    once upon a time it would have been. I've always wanted to try one but its irrelevant now as I'd never buy an orphan unless it was a real bargain

    Thanks for the tire size - I'll order one for the klr (130/80). I rode that neat road between Mangaweka and Kimbolton today that I chased you on a year or two ago and the bald E09 would randomly walk sideways at the worst possible moments scaring the crap out of me - no more rides on that tire....

    I think a v-four is the ultimate engine configuration - from a sound point of view - never ridden one. I'd really like to own a sport tourer but the reality is my back and knees would complain and would limit my riding too much.

    I rode around 750km today on the klr and the upright seating position is what made it possible and fun.

    I rode 2 bandits - 1 in Hastings and 1 in Napier - both from dealers. The hastings bike was an 07 with 30k km for $6.5k but had stuffed tires and quite bad alloy corrosion in odd places - like something corrosive had got on it. The other one is and 08 with 15k km for $8.5 and was like new.

    I was really impressed by the motor - super smooth and will pull from 2000 quite happily in 6th. Runs out of puff about 8000rpm but its such a nice engine to use it doesn't matter - powerful without being crazy fast. Handling was fine and I really enjoyed riding both bikes. I'll mull it over tomorrow but we may have a winner.

    The nicer bike was at Procycles in Napier and I walked into the dealership and saw a big row of Harley's and Triumphs and looked at the guys both with long hair and beards etc and thought - here we go - fecking harley guys. I was completely wrong - they were really nice guys and seemed really straight forward to deal with.

    The shop owner offered to show me some good roads to try the bandit out on - which was very decent of him - feck his vrod was LOUD and he didn't hang around either.

    On the way home from Napier I went over to Taihape and then down to Mangaweka. The road from Mangaweka to Kimbolton is the best road in the world - no question. From kimbolton I went north to Apiti then followed the Pohangina Valley East road down to Ashurst - this is the second best road in the world. Awesome awesome riding - what a buzz.
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  19. Crisis management

    Crisis management Latte riders FTW!

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    The bandits not a bad choice Mark, talk to Hitcher (on KB) about his experience with one, he's in our age / riding demographic, worth listening too and not far from you. Bandits are a bit slack in suspension but emulators and a decent rear shock will help a lot, the stock gear is rooted by 20kms. You may have to look at the seat as well, suzuki have never done a decent seat IMHO.

    Good luck with the purchasing.
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  20. Night Falcon

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    Nice work, theres nothing like the thought of a new (to you) bike to put a smile on ya dial :D. Will have to check out those roads some time. Route 52 from (Herbertville to Masterton) is another cracker.

    Did a small amount of gravel yesterday and man was it thick on top! made keeping in a straight line interesting and as for my now slick K60 rear, eek :eek1 !
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