Icon Patrol Raiden Waterproof gear?

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  1. Noobens

    Noobens Been here awhile

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    Received the Raiden pants/jacket today. Excellent build quality. It's definitely WARM with the liner in. At 7 pounds for the jacket and 6 pounds for the pants, it's pretty bulky stuff. Plan on using this as my extreme cold winter gear with some thermals underneath. So far, so good. Haven't been let down by ICON yet. Only thing I can complain about is the arm length seems a bit long for someone of my height. I'm 5'7", 150lbs and got the medium. I've read that they run very large, but the fit is comfortable enough, and leaves some room for extra layers. If you're not planning on wearing any layers underneath it may be wise to buy a size smaller than normal.
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  2. ThomasVolomitz

    ThomasVolomitz New Old Stock

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    I have been through both lots of rain and mud with the pants in the last six weeks and they are waterproof as advertised. Also, I really like the suspenders.
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  3. Scutty

    Scutty Been here awhile

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    Noobens

    Do you think the jacket is too heavy for year-round use? With the liner removed and vents open?
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  4. itnanti

    itnanti aka "cautious cotta"

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    I love my patrol Jacket. Don't have the Raiden just the regular, in grey. Was in big bear last weekend and it was pretty cold. With the liner it kept me warm till we got out to the desert and on the trails, then I was sweating. I zipped out the liner and opened the vents and it cooled down very quickly. My only complaint, and its happened twice, is the zipper has opened on me from the bottom up. Once while I was riding. If it happens again I calling revzilla to see what my options for an exchange are. My buddy hasn't had any issues with his Patrol and the zipper. Hope this helps.
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  5. bemiiten

    bemiiten League of Adventures

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    I use just the MotoX shell with a electric liner and pack dedicated rain gear. Better set-up for me then the annoying double liner system.
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  6. Aaron from Texas

    Aaron from Texas Been here awhile

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    I thought I'd give my 2 cents to anyone who was thinking about this jacket. I ordered up an Icon Patrol because I was tired of layering up for morning commutes, and thought the water-proofness would be a great addition. The thing looks amazing too; it's such a great looking jacket. As a whole it seemed very well constructed and it is SUPER warm with the liner in.

    But... I couldn't stand riding in it. First thing, the bicep sleeve strap buckles dug sharply into my arm any time I bent my arms past 90*. They were just in the completely wrong spot on my arm, and no amount of adjustment made a difference. It seems like a very minor thing, but oh, so irritating. Especially when I'm reaching up to do up my helmet strap, or reach for something in the breast pocket. And people aren't exaggerating about the weight. Good gravy, is it ever heavy. The thing is so stiff and heavy and baggy, that riding around, I felt so prone. I just felt so restricted, and I couldn't move around well enough to look behind / around me without straining...

    This jacket was just too costly for me to justify. The jacket might have broken in, and the sleeves might have become okay, but I couldn't take it anymore...

    For those who it works for, I envy you. I really wanted to like this jacket, but I have since returned it.
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  7. ThomasVolomitz

    ThomasVolomitz New Old Stock

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    I really like the pants, however I had to take the kneepads out. They were killing me on long rides. Without them, they are the most comfy waterproof pants I've ever worn.

    Speaking of jackets and weight, I tried on a Klim Rally Jacket. Besides the weight of the price tag, the jacket itself was way too heavy.
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  8. mrt10x

    mrt10x Dumba$s Jarhead

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    I have been riding with a KLIM adventure jacket for over a year now.. and honestly the only time you ever feel the weight is when you pick it up.. strap up the internal harness system and the jacket is floating on you..never notice it again... fairly irrelevant to this thread..but protection sometimes comes at a cost in both $$ and weight.
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  9. japako

    japako Been here awhile

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    What did you not like about the armour? Did the pants fit too snug? and last but not least, if you had a larger size pant and wore armour to your leg would it have been better.

    I'm looking for a good pant for dirt riding.
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  10. ParaMud

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  11. CanadianX

    CanadianX Oh!? That is deep.

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    I have the patrol jacket and like it, not love it but like it.
    I like that it is comfortable and fits me well (Size large for me - 6'2" 200lbs) I like the style and that it is mostly waterproof, mostly. It's fine for a slight short rain but heavy rain will seep through. I think it gets in around the vent zippers or seams on the shoulders. The zippers could be a lot better to make sure they are waterproof by adding rubber seams and car ports for the zippers. The jack does vent well when you're on the move but can be hot when you're stopped. The liner is warm and I like that it stays in place when you put it in. The adjustable velcro straps on the arms suck. I've pulled one off complete an another is just hanging on by threads. Not sure the elbow armour would stay in place anyway.

    I've wear this jacket for most of my riding and it does well. From a multi day -3 to -7 ride across the country (sans heated gear) to a trip around the TLab and numerous runs on the trail. It's had it's share of dirt thrown at it.

    To deal with the leaks I've taken to wearing 2x large rain gear over top of my riding gear. I like this approach as when the rain stops I kick of the rain suit and pack it away and ride on with a dry jacket. The patrol being mostly water proof isn't waterproof like a rain jacket it sops up a lot of water in the outer shell which makes the jacket heavy. It will dry overnight though.

    I might buy it again though I would look at premium gear like Rev'it and Klim first. Might look twice if my wife doesn't catch me :D
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  12. Noobens

    Noobens Been here awhile

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    It's tough to say. Depends on your climate. Here in KS, I think the jacket probably wouldn't work in the summer. For an idea, this summer a lot of my riding was in 105+ degrees. I will say that I rode yesterday at 20 degrees F with just a US military thermal and a t-shirt under it and I was perfectly warm. It's a VERY warm jacket. For me it will probably be the jacket I'll use under 90 degrees. Anything over that and I'll move to my mesh textile jacket.

    I've been daily driving with the jacket and pants for a few weeks now and I have to say I'm VERY happy with my purchase. As far as complaints about the arm adjusters breaking, I haven't touched them after I set them the first time. Don't plan on touching them again. If you're constantly adjusting your arm cinches then I guess it could be a problem, but I don't do that.
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  13. Windy Rider

    Windy Rider Pussy Power

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    I have had the Raiden Jacket for a while now and have found it a fantastic bit of kit, when I first got it and put it on I hated it, it was so stiff and you couldn't move in it, but now it has been washed a few times and worn in she's great!:D I have been on 8 day rides in all elements of weather and have found that you can easily make the jacket work for you in hot and cold climates. When the jacket is dirty (it says not to but) I just throw it into the washing machine and it comes up like new! The only thing I did was to seal up the small vents on the front of the jacket the zips did not keep the water out in heavy rain, but now all is great. But like said earlier the jacket gets heavy when wet. Think I will spray some water proofer on it soon. I use the jacket everyday for my commute to work and love it. Keeps the cold out better than any other jacket I've had. I get to work on those below zero days warm as toast (heated grips help)


    Would I buy it again? Probably not, mainly cause I like to try new things


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  14. fxrjon

    fxrjon Adventurer

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    So...Im going to differ from the other opinions and say it sucks.

    I've had my patrol jacket for about 1.5 years now, and think its probably one of the worst waterproof jackets I've ever owned. The jacket can get soaked through after about 30 minutes and the zippers tend to leak a bit from the topmost spot where they zip up. The pants I also had trouble with, with the fabric coming apart at the crotch area. I mean the actual nylon itself coming unfrayed after regular riding.

    I'd say for the money buy almost anything else if you are looking for a piece of serious wet weather gear.

    Two minor notes:
    1. I've been a huge icon fan for years, this is the first piece of gear of theirs I've been dissapointed in. I still have an OG timax jacket that I've had for a bout 9 years that has held up amazingly. I just feel their quality has gone fairly down hill

    2. I think it makes fantastic winter weather gear however. While it doesnt hold up in the rain, its fantastic as a commuting suit in the winter. I wore mine every day last winter riding down into the low 30's. The coat and pants are fantastically warm and easy to get over work clothes.
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  15. ThomasVolomitz

    ThomasVolomitz New Old Stock

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    I have found the pants to be great in the rain and cold. The kneepads had to go though. I substituted some more malleable ones. The originals just weren't comfortable.
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  16. TIGERRIDER007

    TIGERRIDER007 Long timer

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    I guess after reading all these viewpoints and reviews, I'm still a little skeptical about the gear, especially for the dough. I'll keep researching and watching this stuff. :D
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  17. Mercury264

    Mercury264 Once you go Triple...

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    I've never seen/felt a single piece of Icon gear that's impressed me. To me, it's more a fashion statement than true protective/motorcycle gear.
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  18. Windy Rider

    Windy Rider Pussy Power

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    Yes I tend to agree, my next Adv ride I,ll be using my old faithful AGV jacket
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  19. ukturfrocks

    ukturfrocks Been here awhile

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    Had my patrol for a few months and finally hit some rain. Yeah I WAS NOT impressed at all

    This jacket is comfortable breathes good for the heavy duty material used but the game over for me is that it is t waterproof as it states on the jacket it self. I emailed icon and ask for suggestions but intimately want my money back.

    For those buttheads. Out there. I ride in all different climates and am willing to spend the money for the right gear. In this case I wanted not to take my rain gear with. Me My fg tog pants worked awesome.
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  20. JBXC

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    I bought a large, 5'10" 180, fits fine. Very warm, very dry. Insulated liner works well. Kept me warm and dry on a rainy trip through the Ozarks in February.(I bought the Patrol gloves too. Same thing, warm and dry) Takes a while to break in. It is very stiff at first. It vents fairly well, but gets warm when you are stopped. It too hot above 85-90. That is when I break out a mesh jacket and slip on some Frogg Toggs if the rain is very hard. Sometimes getting wet can be a blessing in very hot weather. The drying out process on a bike provides a nice cooling effect. I have had some low speed getoffs and was impressed at how well the jacket and glove protected me. I have had no issues with bad seams, zippers, etc. All in all, it has been worth the money. I think I keep it until I wear it out.
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