ID Route Updates

Discussion in 'Pacific Northwet - Where it's green. And wet.' started by TennesseeRider, Feb 18, 2014.

  1. TennesseeRider

    TennesseeRider n00b

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    In July, I'll get my first ride in ID. Looking for news and comments on any of the following segments:

    Lowman to Yellow Pine via 582, 579, 474
    Yellow Pine to Riggins via 340 Elk Summit, 1614
    Kooskia to 12 via Glenwood 500/Lolo Motorway, 569
    Superior to Wallace via 320, 218, 456
    Thompson Falls to Happy's Inn - is 367 (Graves Crk) or 56 (Thompson River) better?
    Elk City to Painted Rock St Park via Nez Perce and Magruder
    Painted Rock to Challis via 44, 038, 30, 55

    Advice on exceptional and especially noteworthy camping spots along any of these routes also welcome.

    Alex
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  2. dammitdave

    dammitdave Long timer

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    TR, That's a whole season's riding you've bit off there. And what with the ride report you're gonna owe us for the good advice, you'll be busy all winter too!:deal Don't miss the Elk City Wagon road. On the Magruder and Lolo, leave yourself enough time to ride up to all of the fire lookouts. They are placed to give Ranger Rick a fantastic view of the surrounding mountains. You'll need at least 120miles(no reserve) of fuel but you'll sweat less if you have 150-180 miles of range. July hmmm, find the USGS snowtel site and monitor snow levels. Idarider and other inmates in that area give us a running report on snow conditions as the season approaches. Someone here posted a site that gave snowpack and water density information that is more useful than depth for predicting melt off. Order the Idaho and Montana Benchmark Atlas' and be sure you're getting the latest edition. There is a clearing house for wildfire information in Boise.(National Fire Incident Center or something like that) If we don't get more snow it could be an early fire season and the Magruder is especially prone to fire closures. We look forward to seeing a ride report full of superlatives and tongue tied attempts to describe the scenery.:lol3 Dave
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  3. jaredisaac

    jaredisaac Adventurer

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    I'll give this some thought and get you some ideas. That is going to be a great route. How many days are you planning on?


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  4. Wansfel

    Wansfel 50 yrs on 2 wheels

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    Keep on eye on the 2014 Best of Montana 1000 thread. There just may be a bunch of "Best of Idaho" either on the route or attached to the start or finish covering a lot of your wish list - in July.
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  5. TennesseeRider

    TennesseeRider n00b

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    We will ride 2000 miles or so over two weeks. About 2/3 pavement and 1/3 FS roads. About 50/50 camping and motels. We will start and end in Ketchum, and get as far north as Glacier. We will be on BMWs, a thumper and a gsa. Once I finalize the plans, I'll post GPS routes etc.

    Thanks for any input. If anyone is coming to East TN or Western NC and looking to do more than the Dragon, let me know. I'm happy to trade tips and local knowledge.

    Alex
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  6. Wansfel

    Wansfel 50 yrs on 2 wheels

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    What is your specific time schedule? Your description of your routes are very close to tying in with our July 26 ride.
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  7. TennesseeRider

    TennesseeRider n00b

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    We currently plan to be in ID July 6-20.
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  8. Wansfel

    Wansfel 50 yrs on 2 wheels

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    Too early for our ride, but keep an eye out for our route files. Maybe we can use you to pre-run some of our route:evil
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  9. 4r22mny

    4r22mny Old n' Slow

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    Don't depend on Yellowpine for gas. Might be some, might not. You could always call the Yellowpine Hotel/bar and Vicki would tell you what was what but my understanding is that her health is really bad and she isn't even living there now.:cry

    4r
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  10. TennesseeRider

    TennesseeRider n00b

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    Thanks for the replies and PMs. Lots of good stuff.

    But I'm still pretty much in the dark on backcountry roads getting me from Darby MT to Challis ID. Any suggestions on best options?

    Alex
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  11. Wansfel

    Wansfel 50 yrs on 2 wheels

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  12. 4r22mny

    4r22mny Old n' Slow

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    Are you overnighting in Darby?? Or is this link at the end of a day or something?

    If you are starting your day in Darby, go south on 93 to Montana 473 to Connor then up the West Fork of the Bitteroot to Painted Rocks Dam and Lake.

    When the road turns to dirt, turn Southeast toward Horse Creek Pass. (last time I was there it was the 19th of August, we got snowed on).

    Over Horse Creek to Shoup, Idaho.

    When you get to the river - Main Salmon - turn right (down stream) you'll come to Shoup very shortly.

    Keep going downstream (west) until you get to the Panther Creek road. Take it south. (only way there is)

    Only one fork, take the right fork, it should say Cobalt. Follow it until you hit hiway 93 again. Turn right, Challis is (I think) 8 miles of pavement later.

    Fun roads, mostly dirt. Where are you going from there?? If you are headed toward Stanley, take the scenic loop just out of Challis - it's all dirt thru some really neat country.

    4r
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  13. Robert_W

    Robert_W Been here awhile

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    "Thompson Falls to Happy's Inn - is 367 (Graves Crk) or 56 (Thompson River) better?"

    The river road can be a dry dusty log truck filled road if they are working it in the summer. There are how ever a couple of great camp sites along it. Easy ride as long as no trucks and you can do end to end hwy 200 to 2 in 1 or 2 hours.

    Graves creek isn't exactly a direct route. Definitely more off the beaten path. There's a lot of twisting and turning and connections to spurs and such. Easy to get turned around. More scenic...several lakes possible with great camping along the route.
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  14. TennesseeRider

    TennesseeRider n00b

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    Wansfel and 4r

    I'll dig into my maps and look these over.

    Thanks!
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  15. TennesseeRider

    TennesseeRider n00b

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    Graves Creek it is. Wish I had time to get over to your guest ranch. Looks like a fantastic place.
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  16. Robert_W

    Robert_W Been here awhile

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    Only an hour away from T-Falls. If you decide you'd like a little more comfortable amenities for a couple of nights instead of a camp bed give us a shout.

    Lots of great riding in every direction up here. A guy could spend a whole summer and never see it all. :1drink
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