Ideal Tires for the Super 10. Mitas E-07

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by scudrunner82, Oct 10, 2013.

  1. scudrunner82

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    This will serve as my review of the Mitas E-07 tires.

    It seems they are gaining popularity slowly in the US, and every now and then you see them on a bike on here. We still have no US distributer, and the ONLY place I know to get them is MX1 Canada. They are very reasonably priced as far as big-bike tires go, so I can easily justify the increased shipping cost with that.

    I just returned from about a 7000 mile, 17 day trip to the western US. You can see my ride report here: :deal

    http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=916419

    I was asked by several people for a detailed tire review of the Mitas tires. This was my first experience with them. During my ride, I extensively covered pretty much every imaginable surface you can encounter. Pavement, wet pavement, dirt, gravel, mud, sand, rock and snow. I didn't ride ice but thats a bit nutty without ice tires.

    First I'll cover traction based on each surface:

    Dry Pavement- (A)
    Excellent traction and handling characteristics. Scrapes pegs no problem, and you can lean them right over on to the corner knobs and they stick just fine. It took me a bit to build confidence in them being a true dual sport tire. My rear tire used every last mm of the rubber, and the front had about 1-2 mm remaining unused. This is typical for my riding habits and no different than street tires I've used.
    Turn in is even and very light. I like a light steering tire, and it gives the "fall off the edge" feel. Some folks don't like that but I prefer it. You can feel the tread blocks squirm ever so slightly, and they don't have a perfect "locked in" feel of a street, or 90/10 tire, but you get used to it very quickly.
    They are even pretty quiet!!! They make less noise than a set of Anakee 3 tires they replaced.

    Wet Pavement- (A)
    Again, excellent. They shed water, and even in heavy rain they never once stepped out on me. I've been scared out of my wits :eek1 on Tourances in the rain so I was nervous how these would do. I pushed them MODERATELY hard, and not to the edge. I don't push it in the rain anymore.

    Dry Dirt- (A)
    They transformed my Tenere into a real off road bike. Aired down to about 20 PSI they have a great feel to them. At street pressures (33 rear, 31 front) they were pretty bouncy off rocks and a bit skittish. Very predictable though and plenty of grip. No complaints.

    Mud- Rear (A) Front (B)
    The rear tire simply digs and spits and never gives up. It cleans itself out quickly and never once stepped out. The front is the weak link. It was still to the point of being safe, but it packed in much quicker and washed out fairly often, although it was always predictable. For a good mud combo a knobby up front would probably work great, and they would wear out closer to the same time. I don't spend enough time in the mud to justify though, and prefer the great road handling of the E-07.

    Sand- Rear (A) Front (B)
    I don't have a ton of sand riding experience so I might not be the best judge of this. The rear dug in and once again pushed the bike without an issue. The front wandered often and was never planted, but USUALLY predictable. I think this is just the nature of sand riding though :lol3

    Rock- (A)
    I think just about any tire would do fine on big solid rock. Smaller baby head, and gravel type rocks were a non event.

    Snow- (A)
    I didn't get extensive time in the snow, and it was mostly either wet slushy, or fresh powder. None was hard pack. For the conditions I rode in it was excellent.



    On to wear:
    I have over 7000 miles on my set and there is lots left. I don't run my tires right down to the wear bars, especially on an off road bike. I should get at least another 1-2 thousand miles on the back before I decide its time. The front is lasting longer. 10-12K should be easy. The rear is squared some but it took a LONG time and is not as bad as some street tires I've ridden. The front shows very little, if any feathering or cupping. Nice and smooth.

    They make a regular version which is 3 ply, and a "dakar" version which is 4 ply. The dakar lets you air down more without as much worry of rim damage, due to the stiffer sidewall.
    On my trip I ran a regular on the back and dakar on front, for no other reason other than thats all they had in stock at the time. They have a nice ride to them and didn't feel overly stiff.

    Here is my rear currently with 7k miles, next to a brand new one:

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    And the front:

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    They look good on the bike too :D

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    This is probably good evidence how much a fan I am of them: :lol3


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    You can see they are doing pretty well, and are very tough. They saw a lot of high speed interstate, abuse on gravel roads, and lot of rocks. Probably about 500 off road miles in total. In my opinion, these are the tires that should come standard on the Super Tenere!!
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  2. just jeff

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    Hi scudrunner!
    Thanks for the great review! I was looking for a tire to replace the MEFO explorers that I am unhappy with. The MEFOs are a similar tread design but both rears I have purchased have cracked severely at the base of the tread blocks. The first was replaced under warrentee at 5000k, the second decided me to replace them with something else. I need absolute confidence in my tires and don't have that with the MEFOs. Though the wear and handling have been fine, I don't trust them. I will try the Mitas on the basis of your write up and accompanying photos in your ride report.
    Thanks for taking the time to write this up.:clap
    Regards....just jeff
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  3. scudrunner82

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    I hope you like them, especially going on my recommendation! I think you will have good luck with them. I have heard reports of the front E 07 cracking but I think they had a recall on that and this was a long time ago. I had no cracking issues on mine at all.
    Thanks for taking the time to read my write up!
    What kind of bike are they going on?
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  4. just jeff

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    My bike is a 2011 KLR 650. It is well farkled for long distance on and off road.I have over 17000 kilometers(10500miles) on it so far. Loaded with camping gear and me it comes in at 825lbs, 2/3rds of which is on the rear wheel. A friend has recently purchased Mitas tires for his 990KTM but hasn't put them on yet. I hope we'll be as happy as you are!
    Ride Safe....just jeff
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  5. Need For Speed

    Need For Speed Ridin' fool(ishly)

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    Nice review!

    I am seriously considering a set of the 07s to replace the Anakee 2s that I currently have on my DR650.

    I don't want to give up any pavement handling, sounds like I won't according to your review. I really like to rail through the corners and would hate to give up any of that.

    The Anakees disappointed me both in mileage (wore out quickly) and off road abilities (lacking) , sounds like the 07s have that covered.

    Appreciate the feedback, that certainly helps me make my decision.

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  6. William42

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    Great review. Thanks for posting. :thumb
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  7. simmons1

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    What was the price in USD Shipped to your house?

    Thanks!
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  8. Need For Speed

    Need For Speed Ridin' fool(ishly)

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    I just ordered a set:

    Product: Mitas E-07 Dual Sport Front Tire DOT
    OPTION (s): Select Size: 90/90-21 TT - $89.95
    Part No: 752463821
    Quantity: 1
    Item price: CAD $89.95

    Product: Mitas E-07 Dual Sport Rear Tire DOT
    OPTION (s): Select Size: 130/80-17 TT - $129.95
    Part No: 752413217
    Quantity: 1
    Item price: CAD $129.95


    $265 USD to my door (Washington State).

    Not super cheap, hoping these last longer than the Anakees.
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  9. shutterman

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    I put on a set of Mitas E-07 Dakar's for a trip to Alaska this summer (7/3 to 8/10). I put about 8,100 miles on them during this trip. They have been the best tire I have used on my 1150GS. so far. The rear can probably go another 2000 miles or so. The front probably 3000. I was a little concerned with the the max tire pressure of only 33psi. But no problem the entire trip. I did notice a little uneven wear on the rear tire when I got to Alaska 12 days into the trip. Checked the air pressure and I was down to 24 psi. Aired them back up and the knobs seemed to lose their unevenness the more miles I rode on them. I rode mostly asphalt the whole trip, dirt on the Dempster, Dalton, Denali, and the dirt into McCarthy.

    The other thing I noticed is that the rear tire doesn't flatten out as much as other tires I have used, ie Hedi K60, TKC80, Shinko 705.:clap:clap
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  10. scudrunner82

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    I noticed that too. They resist squaring very well.

    I also was worried about the low pressures they run at, but it works just great.
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  11. roarin calhoun

    roarin calhoun Been here awhile

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    Thanks scudrunner. Nice review....BUT, since your tires are on a raven S10, no telling how they'll perform on the underpowered blue ones. Tread looks great tho,should give some bite in mud & sand. I'm going to look at them.
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  12. Ockrocket

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    I'm more than happy with the Mitas E07's on my Wee-Strom..... based on current wear rate the rear will last close to 20-25,000 km's.

    I also have the Mefo Explorers on my KLE500, they will not run to quite the same distance as the E07's on the Wee at this stage, but from a grip point of view they are doing a very similar job [the E07 is slightly better on wet tar though, so my next set will be those for the KLE].
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  14. Johno33772

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    Great tire..9k out of my rear reg E07 with about 1/4" of tread still left. Just switched to Dakar E07 rear & rode about 500 miles in N. GA mountains this past couple days....never missed a beat with the E07 on pavement & dirt.
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  15. Dcc46

    Dcc46 Been here awhile

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    Nice review, Thanks for taking the time to write it. :thumb
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  16. clint64

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    Nice review. Thanks for taking the time to write it up. Think I might give these a try after I wear on my K60s.
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  17. Dirty bike

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    @Shutterman - How heavily loaded was your GS? Did you run the max pressure of 33 psi? And do you think you forgot to air back up, or that the tire lost air over time?

    I've been running K60s and all of the fronts I've had lost 1 psi of air every day or so, but not so on the rears. I run a pretty heavy load, so typically run 42 psi in the back and 36 in the front, which works well for the K60. Just wondering how the Mitas would fair at only 33 psi with my fat load. (full panniers, gal of water, 5 gal fuel cell, other crap, my fat ass, etc.)

    Thanks!
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    Dirty Bike,

    Now I didn't get the mileage the OP got. My rear had just a little more tread at 4000 miles. D2D from Anchorage and up to Inuvik and back was the first 2k miles. I had TKC80 front / E07 rear on a 06 Tiger 955i WAY overloaded, 42liter panniers plus 90 liter dry bag, and did just fine. They will be going on the Wasser Boxer I get sometime next year. Either way, they out dig, outlast, and almost out handle the TKC 80.

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  19. Dirty bike

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    @Drunk Uncle - Thanks for the input. The wife and I will be doing D2D in '14 as part of a big Alaska trip. I love the mileage of the K60, but the Mitas should dig a bit better w/o the center strip the K60 has. I will probably try a set and see how they work/last for me. The big boy sizes still kill $300+ with shipping down to the states, so about the same cost as the K60 for me.
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  20. danketchpel

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    Reading though this has me convinced to go with a E07 on the rear of my Stelvio but I'm not certain about the best pick for the front. I'd rather have a more "knobby" type front tire than the E07 front. I have a separate set of wheels for road use so this would be primarily for off-road given that I'd still be riding at least 100 miles to get to the dirt, quite frequently 2 up. I've got a set of Shinko 705s on it now.

    I'm considering the following for a 110/80 - 19 size;

    Mitas E10

    TCK80

    Scorpion Rally

    Any comments or suggestions welcome. I'm new to putting knobby style tires on a big bike. I've run 606s for years on bikes like my DRZ.
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