Since aviation is sometimes used as an example when discussing riding safety, I thought I'd put out a hypothetical example: "If Riders were held to the same standards as Pilots" I'm NOT suggesting that we do this. I'm just putting out some food for thought. Let's start with the requirements to get a license: Many hours of classroom training and 40 hours ( or perhaps a certain number of miles) of actual riding, some with an instructor tagging along and some solo. The riding would include different types of roads and require practicing things like emergency braking and going around curves. Being able to "preflight" all the systems on the bike would also be covered. After this the student would be required to pass a "check ride" The student would now get a limited license allowing him to operate motorcycles up a certain displacement, let's say 250cc. This would be the equivalent of a private pilot's license. One more thing, if you did your training on a scooter or trike, that's all you would be qualified to operate. Then after more training, and certain number of hours/miles, the rider could get a more advanced license equivalent to a commercial pilot's license. Perhaps now he could ride up to 500cc. If he wanted to operate something bigger, say a GSXR1000, he would have to get a "type rating" to operate that particular model. He would have to demonstrate knowledge of all of the systems (engine, brakes, "preflight", etc) as well as pass another riding test which would include taking it out on the track and riding it to certain limits. Of course, if it's a sport bike, demonstrating the ability to hang off would be required Now, to be able to keep riding, he would have to pass a recurrent check ride every 6 months to demonstrate continued proficiency. Let's not forget the requirement to pass periodic physical exams. Oh yeah, one ticket and you will most likely lose your license for at least 6 months.:eek1 I AM NOT suggesting we do what I outlined above. However something more demanding than riding around a few cones in a parking lot and stopping from 20 MPH might be in order. Any comments?