If you had a motorcycle with no title, no cert. of origin... owner gone?

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by zeeede, May 9, 2013.

  1. groop

    groop So much to ponder

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    This hypothetical story is bound to end up on Judge Judy
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  2. Anorak

    Anorak Woolf Barnato

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    Go to the DMV and ask them without all the precious someone who isn't me bullshit, they won't believe it either.
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  3. boardrider247

    boardrider247 Weekend Anarchist

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    I'm sure you could find someone out there to hypothetically sign a bill of sale


    Edit: Shit if it is a Ducati just part it out. They are worth more as parts then whole anyways.
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  4. Switchblade315

    Switchblade315 Long timer

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    if there is was never a tittle on it i think it will make this easier then harder, the dmv can help you, or tax collectors office who ever is over that up there. if you have record of trying to contact him then you might can just to a storage lean on it and sale it to your self.
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  5. Beezer

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    in AK you can do whats called an abandoned vehicle process. send a registered letter to the last known owner stating the vehicle is abandoned on your property for more than 6 months and you want it moved, storage fees paid, etc whatever. if the letter comes back as un-deliverable for whatever reason, you take the unopened letter to DMV and they write you a title. dmv has an escape clause of some kind if the vehicle is stolen or chicanery is used etc but for a legit abandon vehicle the title is yours. and it doesn't say anything different like a salvage title does. your state may or may not have something similar.

    also, wrecking yards can do this same thing too through a slightly different path. they sell tons of impound rigs that way. that may be another way to go, work through them
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  6. concours

    concours WFO for 44 years

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    Be careful, maybe that hypothetical flake (felon) reported it STOLEN not crashed and got paid.
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  7. mikesova

    mikesova Michigander

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    He already checked if it was reported stolen.
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  8. kantuckid

    kantuckid Long timer

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    You could hypothetically ship it to me in KY, with a bill of sale sent with the driver & I'll hypothetically send you a hypothetical check?
    Like said already, if it were vintage a title would be easily done in many states but as newer , I think the abandoned route is it. Ala "mechanics lien" route is my suggestion.
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  9. mikesova

    mikesova Michigander

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    This person obviously had more money than brains.
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  10. zeeede

    zeeede Long timer

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    Very much so. I know a guy JUST LIKE this guy (but obviously, not the same guy, obviously). Heard from a mutal aquaintance that this person was living out of his car out in CA... last I heard of him, and that was a couple of years ago. I think he's a trust-fund kid though, so there's money somewhere for him.
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  11. redprimo

    redprimo Been here awhile

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    Its seems to me that since the dmv has no record of who owns or purchased the bike and since it has not been reported stolen you should hypothetically be able to saunter into your local dmv and register the bike in your name.

    I might hypothetically explain that the bike was purchased with the intent to race it and things have changed and now you would like to request a title and register it. I would be prepared to take the bike for a very non-hypothetical vin inspection by the hwy patrol. I wouldn't be to surprised that since the original bill of sale was lost in a boating accent that I might be asked to pay sales tax on the full purchase price of the bike when it was new, this would be really crappy but since the hypothetically great state of MA has no record that the bike was sold in MA and I was trying to register a new bike there would be substantial fees.
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  12. what car??

    what car?? down the road

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    This is too funny!! Hypothetical this, that, and the other, HA! Sounds like this is a true story and someone has hypothetical cajones and just can't say, 'hey this is what I'm up against', what say you ADVrider members?
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  13. troidus

    troidus Long timer

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    It's an attempt at plausible deniability, but in fact it's laughable deniability.

    It's MA. You probably owe back taxes to the state and have to give them the bike.
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  14. oldxr

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    There are vehicle title services that could handle this for a fee.Once a title is issued out of any state it can be transfered to any state.I have heard of a crooked auto repair shop in my area paying $500 or so to people that have cars that are financed that they cant sell.Then he files a mechanics lien on the car.I had a buddy leave a car at my house .It was wrecked and used for parts.He would not come and get it out of my yard so I chained it to my van and drug it out to the street and called the police # for abandoned vehicles.Problem solved.Yamaha r1 and fz1 have 998 cc engines.
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  15. fritzcoinc

    fritzcoinc Enjoying my last V8

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    In Texas you can apply for a Bonded Title. Public record goes out and if no one makes ownership claim it yours.
    Cost about $175 here in Texas.

    Part out is a better and more lucrative solution to your hypothetical situation.

    Settle up with him, some how, if he ever shows up. Since you both hypothetically conspired to defraud an insurance company, he shouldn't rat you out.
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