If you ride a BMW do NOT consider the FJR as a replacement

Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by Bueller, Mar 30, 2008.

  1. Sheep

    Sheep Adventurer

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    After reading about the "many" who have owned numerous BMW's, one after another having serious mechanical issues, I'm a little puzzled why one doesn't "get it" after owning one dud after another.

    My new R1200R has 5000 flawless miles on it so far, but a brake recall has come out. I can tell you if this becomes the first of a series of issues on this bike, no matter how much I love it, it will be gone and there will never be another BMW in this garage.

    I've never had any problems on any Japanese bikes (nearly all Suzukis), though they all lack the refinement and attention to details of the German bike. So if this current bike develops a series of bugs, I'll get rid of it quickly and buy another Japanese bike and just upgrade the little details over period of time, if necessary.

    As of now, this R12R is the best overall bike I've ever owned.
  2. GB007

    GB007 Been here awhile

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    I had been dreaming many years of someday owning a BMW motorcycle. I always thought you paid more, for perfect engineering, excellent design, reliability and service. When I first got my G650X Challenge, I was very happy and proud. I trully like the styling, and the way it rides! My first disappointment was to look at a sticker that says it was fabricated by another brand, with BMW sticker. Then lots of bugs throughout the year... Then, the dealership will not fix a stalling issue after several attempts... Well, I'm planning to keep my XC as I trully enjoy it, but I'm hesitant to own another BMW. It was trully disappointing. Will see in the future...
  3. Bueller

    Bueller Cashin?

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    Yamaha calls for the first valve check/adjustment at 26,600 miles. Today I decided to check the valve clearance, though I was a couple hundred miles shy.

    With the exception of having to drain the cooling system, I found the task to be no more cumbersome or complex than performing a valve clearance check on a BMW F650 GS. While I love the F650 GS and still own one, I also find it to be by far the most complex single cylinder motorcycle I've ever worked on. Bullet proof, but complex. The Yamaha engine requires draining the cooling system, removing the gas tank, removing a coolant pipe that runs across the top of the cam cover (two new o-rings are required), removing the plug wires, and a couple of other miscellaneous items. Now that I've done the job I could probably disassemble, perform the clearance check, and reassemble in a little over an hour. It wasn't that bad. Commensurate with the experience of many other FJR owners, all valves were within spec. So I did not have to remove cams or change any shims. While it was apart I cleaned and gapped the plugs, lubed/adjusted the throttle and idle cables, and synchronized the throttle bodies & set idle speed. The bike runs the best it ever has. The sum total of parts used to do the job was:

    Two o-rings for the coolant pipe (2 bucks each)
    One gallon of anti-freeze - about 10 bucks

    So far I don't think owning a motorcycle could get any cheaper.
  4. Red J

    Red J Been here awhile

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    Love mine.

    Considered R-RT but really it's not in the same ballpark with miles v. dollars (used bikes).
  5. bmwhd

    bmwhd God Bless Texas

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    I've owned several BMWs and liked them all but my FJR is my passion. I love it and can't wait until I can afford to trade up to the '13. My '06 has been bullet proof and I love the way it look and rides. I've farkled the heck out of it and wouldn't hesitate to take off for anywhere on it.
  6. Bueller

    Bueller Cashin?

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    Wow, a blast from the past. I miss that bike. If I didn't have such significant tendon damage in my elbows I'd likely still have it.
  7. madeouttaglass

    madeouttaglass Awful Kanauphyl

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    Outside the farkled the hell out of it part, I could have written the exact same thing. It is my favorite bike out of 50+ bikes that I can think of.
  8. BanjoBoy

    BanjoBoy Been here awhile

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    I run iridium plugs and change 'em every 26-30K when I do the valves 'n TBS Boring. :happay(un like mah Bavarian princess who needed something dun every time I rode her!).
  9. Against the Wind

    Against the Wind I'm older now but still runnin'

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    I just unloaded my K1600GT which has been a pleasure to ride when it was running, but unfortunately it was plagued with several quality issues: leaking water pump, failing switch gear which have been replaced multiple times, excessive drive line lash... to name a few.... good riddance BMW, hello 2013 FJR :ricky Looking forward to a reliable and pleasurable riding experience.
  10. DELTATANGO

    DELTATANGO Motorcyclist and Dog Walk

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    I got away from BMWs for the same reasons.
  11. Travman

    Travman Been here awhile

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    I'll offer a slightly different view. After 3 Suzuki's I bought my first BMW in 2011, a 1200RT. I do have the dealer perform each of the services every 6k (which I do find excessive) but have never had one issue with the bike. Yes, it does burn oil so I've traded lubing and cleaning a chain every 500 miles to adding a bit of oil. Now I've not drunken the BMW cool aid and find many issues with the brand but the RT fits me perfectly and has been trouble free for the last 2 1/5 years.
  12. BalancePoint

    BalancePoint Mucker

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    I never had more than annoying problems with the 4 BMWs I've owned.
    • The R1100R lost the hall effect sensor and stranded me, it was 10 years old when it happened, I learned that's about the lifespan of the connector cable.
    • The F650 Strada had a water pump leak and a mysterious engine rattle. Sold it before these turned any worse.
    • The K1200R went through 3 fuel sensor strips and developed an output shaft leak over a 15,000 mile period. It also developed 3 broken ribs, a broken hand, and some deep contusions and scrapes in the control module during the very last 150 feet.
    • The R1200GS went though a fuel sensor strip and... well that was it over a 22,000 mile period. No real complaint. The sensor strip things is aggravating not so much for the lack of a fuel gauge but because of the trouble light it turns on.

    When I sold the R1200GS I went with a Honda ST1300. 20,000 miles into it no problems yet, but I won't say more. Don't want to jinx it. I don't have anything to really say bad about Beemers, may even own one again someday. But I don't really miss anything about them either.
  13. andoulli

    andoulli CAJUN

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    I bought a used 2004 R1150GSA in 2007 with 3K miles. In the next 22K miles it had a stick coil fail, starter fail, slave cylinder failed fucking the clutch as well. My dealer charged $700 to fix that which is about half price, I'm a good customer, or I used to be. I put 32K miles on two used F650s that were trouble free. My 3 used K75s racked up 21K miles without missing a beat. My new 1994 K11RS had a left side sump cover replaced under warranty and a leaking front brake reservoir replace under warranty, then gave me 25K trouble free miles. I put 10K on a new Rockster,no problems. I put 15K miles on a different used R1150GSA with no problems.

    Just purchased a used 2007 FJRAE in Florida, will do a fly and ride for that one soon.

    My new 2011 T800 Roadie has been perfect as well, doesn't really fit in this thread but thought I'd add it since Bueller has one, I think.