Ignitech Ignition

Discussion in 'Airheads' started by Voltaire, Sep 28, 2012.

  1. Voltaire

    Voltaire Titanium and Ceramic Hipster

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    I bought one of these to try out on my race bike.
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    Unit mounted under seat.
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    My engineer friend made me an adapter plate and I found a bit of ally to mount the pick up on.
    Rotor comes with the kit.
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    I was going to run twin plugs....might just run a single coil instead.
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    You can use the stock curve that comes with the unit or make your own, its as easy as uploading a photo on the net.
    With the engine running you can alter the curve, adjust the 'soft' rev limiter, read the actual revs....pretty cool.
    The curve shown is not the one I am using as I have limited advance to 30 degrees.

    The instructions are a bit vague, :dealI found as soon as I started the motor the screen would freeze.....this was due to needing 5000 ohms on the plugs.....easy fix was resistor plugs.:clap

    Raced it all last weekend, ran fine.
    Would it suit a road bike, yes it would.
    Would I ever buy another Boyer....no.
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  2. disston

    disston ShadeTreeExpert

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    It looks like you have that plugged into a laptop maybe. Is that how you program it? I'm thinking this is expensive. Well?
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  3. ptr

    ptr Elefant-Tamer

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    hi

    i agree ... absolutely uncomplicated ... really plug`n play ... and cheapier than original part(s).

    btw: which kind of race do you mean ... on a BMW? :wink:
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  4. Voltaire

    Voltaire Titanium and Ceramic Hipster

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    Its pre programmed, you only have to configure it to suit the type of motor...1,2,3,4 cylinder, set up base advance ( like doing static).
    Would run straight out of box.
    Yes, Using a laptop.
    Price....I paid $500 NZ for box, rotor, pickup, and two dual plug coils....thats about $400 US.
    As a re limiter was going to be $100 us it works out good.
    Wiring is straight forward, 12volt pos, earth, wire to coil, wire to pick up.

    They have a variety of pick up options so could be used on anything.:clap
    The race class is pre 1976 Euro over 500cc, I'm a tail end Charlie but enjoy every minute of it.:freaky
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  5. pommie john

    pommie john Long timer

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    Can you buy the kit without the coils? I already have a pair of Dyna dual outputs.
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  6. Voltaire

    Voltaire Titanium and Ceramic Hipster

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    Yes, I got mine from the NZ distributor, but you can deal direct.
    http://www.ignitech.cz/english/aindex.htm
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  7. RGregor

    RGregor Been here awhile

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    Major advantage (besides price) in my eyes is the flexibility regarding triggering.
    I wanted it as a replacement for my Silent-Hektik and thus keep triggering mechanism and (inductive) pickup.
    Sent them a picture of the 5 wing rotor and they made a special configuration file for me.
    Worked right out of the box.

    The Ignitech is used quite often here for beemers, a guy started the whole affair ~2 years ago by adapting it to his bike and documenting each step in the 2-ventiler forum.
    In the meantime he's got the Ignitech Injection running in his two beemers.
    Completely legal (TUEV) which is quite an affair in Germany.

    I don't have the ignition running in the bike yet, but built a primitive test stand to run it up to 4000 rpm and check advance curve and all other parameters with the stroboscope light.
    Looks very good up to now, the ignition does exactly what I had programmed.

    Good message for PJ: it automatically detects needed dwell time of the coils (checked that with a Honda Fireblade coil and a BMW 4V coil) and triggers coil accordingly.

    Ignitech does not provide a special mounting kit for the BMW alternator, but this guy here sells them:
    http://www.parts4motos.de/ignitech.html
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  8. wirewrkr

    wirewrkr the thread-killer

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    So.....where's the alternator going to be?
    I know Voltaire isn't running one because it's a racer, but ................
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  9. RGregor

    RGregor Been here awhile

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  10. adrenal

    adrenal skrunkwerks.com

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    So, just how easy is it to program with you're own curve?
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  11. Voltaire

    Voltaire Titanium and Ceramic Hipster

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    The program starts up.
    There is a standard curve.
    You create a new file, save it.
    drag the curve around with your mouse.
    Save
    Then upload to unit.
    Hit verify to read and there it is.
    Start the motor and watch the engine revs map across the curve.
    If you don't like it make another file and start again.
    If you can upload a photo onto the net you can do it.:D
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  12. supershaft

    supershaft because I can

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    So you can change the rpm range too? Strange but on many an electronic 'adjustable' curve, you can't.
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  13. RGregor

    RGregor Been here awhile

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    A curve consists of ten points (in fact eleven, but the first one is at zero rpm). You can define them by setting rpm and advance wherever you like.
    If i.e. your rpm range ends at 8k5 you set the last point there or maybe at 9k and additionally set the rpm limiter.
    Between the points the ignition will interpolate.
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  14. adrenal

    adrenal skrunkwerks.com

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    tks voltaire.
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    datchew Don't buy from Brad

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  16. AlpineRAM

    AlpineRAM PartsChaser

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    I'm running one on my wife's Honda SLR 650.
    I started this thread http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=678178 about it.
    Now I'll need to take a look on how to get a TPS signal from somewhere on my airheads...
    I think that the TPS function is really missing on the old airheads.

    Cheers

    AlpineRAM
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  17. RGregor

    RGregor Been here awhile

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    On the latest version of the ignitech (V88) software has been adapted to use a Bosch manifold pressure sensor instead of a simple TPS.
    In the latest issue of the magazine "MO - Sonderheft BMW Motorräder" (only in german) there's an article about that.
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  18. AlpineRAM

    AlpineRAM PartsChaser

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    Do you have a link for the article?

    Cheers

    Markus
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  19. RGregor

    RGregor Been here awhile

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  20. Stagehand

    Stagehand Imperfectionist

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    I just think Ignitech is a funny name.
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