Importing a bike from the States to Canada

Discussion in 'Canada' started by Duster929, Oct 3, 2007.

  1. RiderVic

    RiderVic KTM Konvert

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    I have had three very different experiences with three different bikes imported from the States:

    08 KLR 650 bought new in San Diego - Kawasaki US head office very helpful, faxed me a copy of the letter that day, followed up with a mail copy - NO CHARGE:D

    05 Ducati 749S bought on ebay from guy in FLA - I investigated all options including asking PO to get letter from dealer, they wouldn't do it, Ducati N.A forbids dealers to do this. Only option left was paying Canadian dealer $500, ouch.:cry

    '75 Ducati 860GT bought on ebay, from CA - no $200 RIV fee, no requirement for a recall clearance letter, because bike is over 15 years old, sweet!:clap

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  2. LVGS

    LVGS Been here awhile

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    Has anyone had any experience importing a bike of this vintage? Specifically, do you require a recall letter and does it have to go through the usual Can Tire inspection?

    Thanks,

    LVGS
  3. bmwnewbie

    bmwnewbie Been here awhile

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    See post above any bike manufactured 15 years ago is good to go.

    bmwnewbie
  4. GrenDesb

    GrenDesb Been here awhile

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    But the seller can refuse to sell the bike to me if it's too much of a hassle.

    I asked another dealer and he too do not know what is this document.

    Anybody have an example of what the KTM letter should look like?
  5. ScottDill

    ScottDill TANSTAAFL

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    It just has to be a letter from KTM showing that there are no outstanding recalls. Explain this to the dealer and you won't have any problems. Since its a used bike, ask the seller to do it as a requirement for you to purchase....he's a fellow rider, I always find them most reasonable. He likely has a relationship with a dealer.
  6. GrenDesb

    GrenDesb Been here awhile

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    According to RIV, they need a letter from the head office or a printout from the dealer's vehicule database which I received but it is plain text, no logo.

    I'll try with a letter from a dealer and we'll see.
  7. ScottDill

    ScottDill TANSTAAFL

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    I've done this several times. It is just a computer printout, its not on letterhead....but needs to be from the manufacturer, not the dealer. The dealer just provides the printout....It sounds like you have what you need.
  8. farmerger

    farmerger Snowed in Adventurer

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    What he said. All you need from the dealer is a "Vehicle History Report."
  9. GrenDesb

    GrenDesb Been here awhile

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    Simply like this? This is the vehicule history printout from a US dealer.

    Motorcycle History

    VIN: VBKVA440XXXXXXXX First Dealer: ELITE MOTORSPORTS
    Engine Number: 0660XXXXXX Address: 1400 E. EISENHOWER BLVD.
    Model: 950 ADVENTURE ORANGE Zip / City: 80537 LOVELAND
    Model Year: 2006 Country: USA
    Color: Orange State/Province: CO

    Customer: XXXXXXXX
    Article Number: 9875F5 Address: XXXXXXX
    Zip / City: 57702 RAPID CITY
    Warranty Duration: 12 Months Country: USA
    Warranty End Date: 05-31-2007 State/Province: SD
    Phone: XXX XXX XXXX




    Production Date: 04-07-2006 Shipment from KTM: 05-18-2006


    Technical Data :
    Owner's Manual (9875F5_OM_EN.pdf)
    Technical Data Chassis (9875F5_TDC_EN.pdf)
    Technical Data Engine (9875F5_TDE_EN.pdf)
    Spare Parts Manual Chassis (9875F5_SMC_EN.pdf)
    Spare Parts Manual Engine (9875F5_SME_EN.pdf)
    Setting List WP Fork (9875F5_SLWPF_EN.pdf)
    Setting List WP Shock Absorber (9875F5_SLWPS_EN.pdf)
    Service Data (9875F5_SD_EN.pdf)
    Repair Manual (9875F5_RM_EN.jpg)



    Date Type Additional Info Details Attachments
    01-29-2011 Warranty Claim 1884479, Accepted, FUEL TANK, SEAT, SPOILER ..., INCORRECTLY MOUNTED OR ADJUSTED,
    >> Print View Messages Warranty Claim Details
    01-29-2011 Warranty Claim 1884481, Accepted, CLUTCH, LOOSE,
    >> Print View Messages Warranty Claim Details
    01-29-2011 Warranty Claim 1884482, Accepted, BRAKE, TROUBLE-SHOOTING AT MANUFACTURER´S SITE,
    >> Print View Messages Warranty Claim Details
    05-31-2006 Motorcycle Registration XXXXXX XXXXX, 57702, RAPID CITY (Created On 05-31-2006) Print View Delivery Certificate
    05-18-2006 Motorcycle sold to Dealer 12066 ELITE MOTORSPORTS LOVELAND COUSA
    11-11-2005 Messages / Dealer Technical Services & Warranty Messages TB0609 LC8 Engine Loss of cooling liquid Print View Messages
  10. MacNoob

    MacNoob piney fresh

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    I do believe the report needs to state something like "No Outstanding Recalls" or "All Campaigns Up to Date". The important part is that RIV needs to know that any recalls have been performed prior to allowing the import.
  11. gumbellion

    gumbellion Been here awhile

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    I will try and find my letter from when I imported my BMW and post it tonight.
    It clearly said on the bottom "No outstanding recall campagins against this vehicle"
    It is a factory recall clearance letter, has nothing to do with warranty
  12. Stewart5533

    Stewart5533 Been here awhile

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    Just wondering rather than Fax all the paper work to RIV has anyone local to the Surrey BC office just walked in with there paperwork and got it sorted out there and then.
  13. bmwnewbie

    bmwnewbie Been here awhile

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    As MacNoob and gumbellion state the notation "NO OPEN CAMPAIGNS" on the report it is usually near the bottom of the report in CAPS.

    bmwnewbie
  14. Jick Magger

    Jick Magger Exile on Main Street

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    Here are the facts on importing a BMW. A letter from any BMW dealer even if it says "no recalls outstanding" is not accepted for import. The letter must be from BMW Motorrad Canada. When you request and pay for the letter they will automatically send a copy to RIV Canada for clearance. You will receive a copy of the letter which is on BMW Motorrad Canada letterhead and is addressed to whoever is importing the bike(you) It states the year make and model and VIN number.
    "This letter is to confirm that the above mentioned motorcycle at the time of production met USA/Canadian emission standards and did comply with US safety standards. There are no outstanding recalls on this motorcycle. Yours sincerely"
    Then signed by two different BMW signing officers. Thats it... Hope it helps clarify a few points.
  15. gumbellion

    gumbellion Been here awhile

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    Here are the facts from when I imported my BMW. Upon further inspection someone at RIV screwed up and didnt read the information at the top of the dealer printout I have. but regardless its imported and on the road. I think if you are going to be importing a bike why not try the dealer printoff route? Like me there is a chance you can get away with it for free, and worse case scenario it might take 3 more days to get your bike on the road. To me 500 savings vs 3 days is a easy one, especially when you can get a temp plate for the 3 days for 12 bucks
    Here is what I submitted to RIV
    Sorry for the shit pics.
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  16. BTL

    BTL No more snow!!

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    I borrowed this from another post. Its a good read. You really need to pay attention to Para 2 which shows a quote from the RIV website. Its very clear what is acceptable or not. Scare tactics should not keep the informed ( us ) from making a great purchase south of the border.



    “As of July 9, 2008 BMW and Mercedes very quietly dropped requirements that made importers pay for and procure admissibility letters from these manufacturers at a cost of $350 per letter. Furthermore, the manufacturers have also indicated to the RIV that recall and final compliance letters do not need to come from the Canadian head office of these manufacturers at a cost of $500 per letter. It seems that the Canadian government or perhaps some litigators finally forced these manufacturers to drop the requirements and allow for federally regulated compliance inspectors at Canadian Tire to review the cars, as has always been the requirement in the past. This means that we can install km/h speedometers and day time running lights at whatever cost and supplier we so choose.”


    Dispelling the FUD

    Don’t even bother calling BMW Canada or USA to confirm this because they are still spouting the same FUD, even today. The proof that this has changed can be found right on the RIV’s website at http://www.riv.ca/***************.aspx where option 2 states:

    “A printout from an American or Canadian dealership’s vehicle service database.
    This document must be produced by an authorized dealer and not a reseller. You can confirm whether or not a dealership is authorized by visiting the manufacturer’s web site or by calling their head office and providing them with the dealership’s location. The printout must also contain the 17-digit vehicle identification number (VIN), year, make and model, and indicate that there are no outstanding recalls. RIV routinely forwards a copy of these printouts to the manufacturer for authentication.”

    And that's exactly what I did. One of the terms I negotiated was to have the vehicle Warranty Service Inquiry printout sent to me after I made the deposit, but before I signed. When I received the document, I immediately scanned it and emailed it to the RIV who promptly acknowledged receipt. I called an hour later and they confirmed it was acceptable. With the biggest roadblock eliminated, I proceeded to physically import my car, which took less than 40 minutes to pass both borders.
  17. BTL

    BTL No more snow!!

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    :deal
    Had friend yesterday who phone RIV and they assured him over the phoned and they gave a ref number that the above posted pic is all RIV ( second option from their website) requires to import bike. Bear in mind that it is date sensitive and must be dated within 30 days of purchase. Outside the 30 days and U may have to resubmit. This could not be easier. Hope this helps all and sorry to all the folks who got stung with 500$ BS from BMW Canada.
  18. blitzkreig

    blitzkreig Been here awhile

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    WOW this thread keeps on ticking.

    A couple random thoughts after having imported several cars and bikes back into Canada after having bought them in different States. No two States rules are the same and no two Canadian Provinces are the same. The last purchase I made was from California, where the plates go with the vehicle and are not retained by the Seller.

    As I buy private insurance (Alberta) I got my insurance pink slip from my insurance company after I faxed them the bill of sale and they then scanned the pink and emailed to me so I had it on my phone. So I left the California plates on but had Alberta insurance. It must have been legal as I was stopped by a CHIP for having made an illegal left turn and it didn't seem to bother him at all, showed him the insurance pink slip on the phone and the vehicle title which had been signed over to me. Slick as snake shiite. Although I did get a ticket :evil

    Once at the border I slapped on an Alberta bike plate from another of my motorcycle in my fleet as we Albertans have 2 weeks to make a registration change after having bought a vehicle ... no need for a temporary anything. Again other Provinces would be different.

    Just one note. If you are importing anything else when you are making the crossing, like tires or parts, even if they are for a friend claim they are for personal use. The CBSA gets really snippy if you say you are importing anything for someone else, as they say you need some kind of an import permit(s) or licence and there is a snow storm of paperwork and fees to make that happen and it ain't easy talking around it even for a one-off.
  19. Stewart5533

    Stewart5533 Been here awhile

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    Just got my bike delivered to the border, used a shipper who is also a Adventure rider. The guy is into shipping bikes to fund his next bike trip to Siberia. If your looking for a bike to be shipped I would give him a call Israel Gillette 423 293 2429. This is his blog information from his past trip to Chile www.israelgillette.blogspot.com Really cool guy worth the call.
  20. Jick Magger

    Jick Magger Exile on Main Street

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    Any more info on where he is located? Does he haul with trailer. Insurance? Maybe a few details on your transaction would be helpful. Thanks