Importing a bike from the States to Canada

Discussion in 'Canada' started by Duster929, Oct 3, 2007.

  1. Maggot12

    Maggot12 U'mmmm yeaah!!

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    I figured with our dollar, it would be rare that importing is still happening.
  2. MCP

    MCP Been here awhile

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    To clarify.

    I imported into Canada, through the Blaine U.S. customs office. The ITN # is required now to get your bike into Canada; I posted the link of the company that I used, they have a U.S. branch. U.S. customs was not a problem.

    CDN customs were the issue.
  3. Kotbullar

    Kotbullar Sometime, you gotta slow down ....

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    Am curious about an ITN number, and its purpose. have never needed one for my past imports.
  4. MCP

    MCP Been here awhile

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    When was your last import?

    "U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) also requires under CBP regulations 19 Code of Federal Regulations (CFR) Part 192 that all used self-propelled vehicles be presented to CBP for inspection prior to export along with the presentation of the title and/or any other documentation showing ownership 72 hours prior to export along with the Internal Transaction Number from AES."

    https://help.cbp.gov/app/answers/de...2S0tEbQ==/~/internal-transaction-number-(itn)



  5. Mr Grumpy

    Mr Grumpy Old Git.

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    I have most of my '99 Buell M2 in a crate that I brought with me from France (sentimental but not economic I know).
    I brought everything except the frame as "Used motorcycle parts". A friend in Chicago has a frame with clear title that he'll give me to rebuild my old hoss.
    My question is, how do I go about importing the bare frame into Canada? I realise that it's over 15yrs old so I don't have to worry about the RIV, but other than that I don't know where to start, as all the official sites tell you is how to do a complete vehicle.
    Anyone done this recently?
    Alternatively does anyone know of a '99-02 Buell M2 or S3 frame with Canadian papers going cheap?
  6. jfman

    jfman Long timer

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    At a buck fourty-two we are more likely to see Canadian bikes going to the US vs the opposite.
  7. Maggot12

    Maggot12 U'mmmm yeaah!!

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    Yep, for sure. Guys are down below talking about coming north and buying Africa Twins when they show up. Similar MSRP's in both countires.

    I was looking at some used Tenere's. Cheaper to buy a new 2015 here, then it would be to buy a used 2014 there.

    I just sold an FJR that I bought in Mi a couple yrs ago. Our dollar was 94 cents and good deals were very plentiful. Now, not so much.

  8. PGagy

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    He confiscates 2-3 bikes per week? What does he do with them after confiscation? They are probably auctioned off for real cheap! Where is this auction held? May have some good finds. Unless it was an empty threat.
  9. MCP

    MCP Been here awhile

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    Couldn't tell you how valid the threat was, or where all the bike go - they have a job to do - I get that - he just happened to be an A-Hole doing his job.
  10. theshnizzle

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    Ok, question about this EIN/AES.....I clicked on the AES link and it seemed to take me to a "importers"page, is this trying to direct traffic to use a importer? I am really unclear what these regulations are and how it impacts me as a private person buying a bike from a private person. I imported a bike a few years ago and had the bill of sale,the title and the recall letter at the border.

    No issues whatsoever importing.

    Is there new paperwork to be done now? If a seller from here(USA) is to sell a bike to a canadian, what does the seller need to do on his end now? My seller did the recall letter, as required and I paid him and the title and bill of sale went to the border. As per usual.

    Can someone clearly spell out what these new acronyms mean and how they get in the way of me buying a bike from the states, from a private seller?
  11. rarepartbuilder

    rarepartbuilder redemption gypsy

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  12. MacNoob

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  13. Commuter Boy

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    The US government wants some sort of tracking number so they can tell who is exporting out of their country, thus the ITN. They also want to get it all into a database, so why pay a government official do it when they can get you to, for free, so that explains the AES online system.

    You could in theory register to get a US ITN a couple of different ways, or use a passport or Nexus number to identify yourself as the base instead of a US tax id number, but the hoops and paperwork have proven to be worth the cost of using a broker to do it for you under the new system. Or, spend hours of your time figuring it out and hopefully getting the forms right the first time. Apparently once you get the ITN you have it for life, so it's cake after that, so one-off importers will probably use a broker, those who expect to do it a lot should figure it out.

    As far as impacting US sellers, it doesn't. They sell it to you in the US, then YOU are the exporter of record, not the US vendor.
  14. Commuter Boy

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    You need to define "all in" a little. Do you get them to do paperwork, transport and delivery up to and across the border, or just the bare minimum paperwork for you to trailer the bike across yourself?

    Just about every broker will quote you if you know what level of service you want. Used to be a bare bones import paperwork was $250 or thereabouts, and up depending on the level of service and hand holding you need.
  15. theshnizzle

    theshnizzle Long timer

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    When I go to pay my tax at the border is it determined from the US selling price or do they convert it to CAD and you pay the tax on that number?

    If my bike is 6000 USD is that what my 13% tax rate is or will I pay tax on the almost 8000 CAD that it converts to?
  16. Commuter Boy

    Commuter Boy Long timer

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    Start looking in Alberta. LOTS of stuff getting repo'd and sold off.
  17. GB

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    You pay the tax on the converted to CAD$ amount.
  18. theshnizzle

    theshnizzle Long timer

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    Figures...
  19. Maggot12

    Maggot12 U'mmmm yeaah!!

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    Bought a couple bikes and a couple rvs when our dollar was a 1.05+ several yrs back. Those were sweet deals.

  20. Jbone11 11

    Jbone11 11 Been here awhile

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    This is why the bill of sale is so crucial...*ahem*...wink wink...nudge nudge.... You pay tax on what the "Bill of Sale" lists. Dosen't have to be official...a hand written note signed by both parties will suffice. As long as the amount isn't ridiculous...say...$1000 for a brand new GSA 1200....you're G2G.