Importing a bike from the States to Canada

Discussion in 'Canada' started by Duster929, Oct 3, 2007.

  1. SorryEh

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  2. Lornce

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  3. canamac

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    Would anybody have info on getting a recall letter for a BMW? I hear it can be quite pricey........thanks...John
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    Max BMW provided one for me with no charge
    I had the previous owner contact the dealer to get the letter though. As i understand they only charge for the letter when it is being used for export.
    The previous owner said he was selling the bike, but didnt say it was going to be coming to canada
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  5. manybike

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    This is from 5 (or more) years ago but the recall letters from the dealers in the US also had a statement on them that said "not to be used for export purposes". Not sure if that is still the case. Several people I know used these letters to import their bikes and they were accepted at the border.
    To get a so called official recall letter you were supposed to get them from your local dealership...yeh right. One dealership I know of was charging a high price for them...and they were under no obligation to even give you one.
  6. bmwnewbie1

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    I have imported numerous BMWs into Canada. Just make a condition of the sale that the owner has to provide you with the "recall letter", or as the heading on the paperwork states WARRANTY VEHICLE INQUIRY. If the dealer is a dick about it, some may be, just have the owner remind the dealer he is the owner of the bike and he has the right to that information.. The note on the document reads 'THIS DOCUMENT IS NOT TO BE USED OR RELIED UPON FOR IMPORT OR EXPORT PURPOSES AND IS NOT TO BE DISTRIBUTED OR SHARED WITH THIRD PARTIES" I have ignored and RIV has never had a problem providing the RIV paperwork to me.

    Hope this helps,

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  7. manybike

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    Yep...that is my experience also.
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    Good to see the greedhead pig-fuckers at BMWNA circumvented.

    Fuck them.



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  9. antirich5

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    A little off topic, but would to hear if anyone has done the opposite: export a bike from Canada to the US. Looking at riding something i found home via Ontario or Quebec.
  10. bmwnewbie1

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    I am in the process of finalizing a sale my 2006 R1150 GSA to US buyers and I am in Canada. However, my bike is a BMW imported into the US originally and is still has an Arizona title, and a valid Arizona License Plate, so bringing it back I just advise US Customs and Border Patrol that it is my vehicle and I am bringing it back to the US.

    If the bike is Titled and plated in Canada, and depending if it is newer than 15 years old. Have your buyer get a hold of the manufactures office and have them provide him a Letter of Conformance stating that the bike meets US EPA standards and also US DOT Standards, also make sure the Compliance Labels are on the Bike and then go on to US DOT website and print off the HS-7 Declaration form and check off box 2A if you get that Letter of Conformance stating that it meets the requirements and fill out the rest of the Form and present it to US Customs. Also, I would check with US Customs at the Port of Entry where you will be bringing the bike across.

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  11. antirich5

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    Thanks, I've heard the same from a few sources. Bike (Husqvarna 701) was identical to the US version and has the DOT/EPA stamps on the frame. BUT, the owner doesn't have the original muffler. Considering how US law enforcement has zero clue what a legal muffler is, i'm not too worried.

    But i did try calling KTM North America once about getting such a letter for a 2010 SMR, but never heard back. Guess I'll try again.
  12. guzzirelic

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    In 2005 I imported a bike from Ohio to Ontario. It was well over 15 years old, I went and picked it up myself, followed the rules and had no troubles bringing it home.
    I'm now looking at a few possible purchases and as far as I know, not much has changed. Again, old bikes.
    Make sure the serial number/manufacture's plate is clearly visible showing the country of origin. Have the seller fax the bill of sale and title to the border crossing 72 hours in advance etc.
    Problem is the bikes are too far away for me to go and pick up myself. One on my list of possibles is in Houston Texas. (I'm in northern Ontario)
    Anyone have an idea what is involved (if I can get it shipped) as far as the border is concerned? Does a broker handle the export and import requirements? Costs?

    thanks for any information.

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    I used Uship a few years back to have a bike transported from Dallas to the Niagara area of NY. Very reasonable price and excellent customer service with updates along the way.

    Used Uship again this past winter to move a bike from Minneapolis to Michigan. What I learned is that either shipping rates have increased dramatically or not a lot of shipping happens between Minneapolis and Michigan.

    fwiw.


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  14. bmwnewbie1

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    See my post two replies back.

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    Thanks. I think I understand whats required to bring an old (about 40 year old) bike back myself but what I have no idea about is --- if I want to have it shipped, how does the border get dealt with? Are there shippers that will do the paperwork required or is this what brokers do?
    At this time I have no deal pending but I'm looking for a particular bike and see a few for sale in the U.S., none ever turn up in Canada. So I'm wondering if shipping is feasible or will the logistics and cost make it unreasonable?

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  16. bmwnewbie1

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    I think since it is over 15 years old you do not have to go through the RIV process. However I still think you have to got through US Export System and Canadian Importation. You still have to get an ITN and have a Broker fill out the AES paper work for you the US Portion, and in the end whoever you can to transport the bike to Canada, however the price for transport seems quite high, of course its all the way form Houston to Northern, Ontario.

    Good luck
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  17. C-Stain

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    Here's the Question.

    I have agreed to buy a 2002 KTM 200 EXC-F that was originally purchased in the US, imported but never underwent RIV Inspection. It is Off Road Plated. I don't really care that it's not street plated...but that possibility would make SWMBO much happier knowing that the number of Motorcycles is growing and I have to continually justify their existence.

    Is there a possibility of having the RIV Inspection done or a way to get a street plate for said machine IF conditions are met?

    I've been told by armchair dirtbikers that I'm foolish. What say the rest of you FFs?
  18. bmwnewbie1

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    Since it is a 2002 what is the month build date, since we are almost half way through 2017, it may qualify under the 15 year old limit where RIV does not apply anymore? If so, I guess you'll have to get an out of Province Inspection since you want to get it registered and see if it passes. Thats the only thing I can think of.

    Good luck,

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  19. Maggot12

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    You're looking at 2 different concerns. One of which is importing the bike and the 2nd, trying to register it.

    With the bike at the 15 yr mark, ( about 60% chance of that right now and it'll increase to 100% by Dec :D) the RIV process doesn't come into play. So in that regard you're golden and don't need to do anything. No RIV fee, no Canadian Tire visit.

    Registering the bike for street use could be an issue. I street plated a couple DRZe models yrs ago when the VIN and DMV weren't as concerned. They scrutinize it more now and the VIN may show up as an off-road bike.

    I would take whatever State registration you have and head down to Access NS and give it a shot. If you're porking the girl on the other side of the desk, it may increase your chances of getting this to work. Worst they'll tell you is you can't register it.

    Good luck.

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    Well, importation went well. US-DOT stamps on the frame is all that was needed, no need for a Letter of Conformance (and KTM NA said they wouldn't issue one anyway ;-( ) US Customs in Lake Champlain is HUGE, probably would have been easier at a smaller location. Agent tried to be a bit intimidating with a million questions, but in the end, he was pretty cool. They actually gave me a binder w/instructions for the declaration paperwork.

    Had to get in line with tractor trailers, and all the booths are 10 feet in the air. Last agent looked down and laughed; said he never say a motorcycle come through his station for an exit stamp. Wish I had a photo.


    Two things that were tough:

    Quebec Temp registration: Lady at the SAAC (DMV) had no clue what were asked for and spoke no English. Had to show her the web page, and still took a few hours to get. Lesson one, make good friends with a French-Canadian, especially one from ADVRider ;-)

    NJ Title: I thought i could get this from the DMV in jersey City, Nope, had to mail EVERYTHING into Trenton, can't do in person, took 3 weeks. Had to follow up with a check for taxes, and then a few days later, I get a title in my name :-)

    Can't make a right on red in Montreal. That would have SOOOO been needed!!! Small bikes are nice in that city; much easier to get around!