Importing a bike from the States to Canada

Discussion in 'Canada' started by Duster929, Oct 3, 2007.

  1. Grinder

    Grinder Wrong way 'round

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    I went through the same thing when I moved from Canada to DC. KTMs have labels for EPA and fmvss in addition to the Canadian labels for environment Canada and cmvss. The fuckers at KTM were completely unhelpful and never pointed out the bikes had both labels. I just noticed them by happenstance when I was cleaning the bike up before putting it in the moving truck. Since those labels are on it, no need for any letters.

    My BMW GSWC on the other hand is a huge ordeal. BMW Canada and USA were unwilling to give a letter. I was able to temporarily import since I'm here on a temp basis but man, what a bunch of BS. Makes you wonder what would happen if you fired up a word processor and write a letter yourself.
  2. antirich5

    antirich5 Long timer

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    I think the reason why they don't do letters is legal liability and/or threats to their domestic dealership. Dealers would get pissed if people were crossing the border to get a discount, and the factory was helping them.
  3. bmwnewbie1

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    It has nothing to do with legality, your right it is the pressure BMW North America puts on the US BMW dealers due to the whining of some of the BMW Dealers in the larger markets. They don't want the competition. BMW and Mercedes do this with their cars also. Where AUDI doesn't.

    The local BMW bike dealer will give you a "recall letter" however they will charge you a of $500.00 to $750.00 for the pleasure of dealing with them and they will take their sweet time doing it. And they will tell you have to "Canadaianize" the bike and only they can do it, another crock.

    Again in a previous post I mentioned that if you are buying a used BMW Bike from a private seller, make it a condition that he the seller gets you a "recall letter" from the Service Dept. at his BMW Dealer. Some are reluctant to give him the recall letter with the excuse BMW NA doesn't allow the dealer to provide him the letter/notice. I have advised the owner to tell the dealership that he owns the bike not the dealer and he wants the letter/notice. If they try and tell you they have to get BMW to mail it to them they are full of shit as they can simply "print from the screen"

    The ironic thing is there are dealers on the East Coast and they will provide you whatever paperwork you want or need.

    Also bear in mind the "recall letter" or as it is referred to VEHICLE INQUIRY REPORT has to be on BMW NA stationary.

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  4. MacNoob

    MacNoob piney fresh

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    Can someone point me to any discussion of importing a NEW bike?

    I assume if I buy from a state with no sales tax that I can save that tax. Dealer would issue me a new title, I'd have to wait for that. Wouldn't need a license from that state though.

    72 hrs to deliver title & bill of sale to the US side of the border. Recall clearance to add for the Cdn side. Do I need an ITN # for a NEW bike?
  5. Maggot12

    Maggot12 U'mmmm yeaah!!

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    You won't save the taxes... You'll pay some of the tax at the border and the rest during registering.

  6. MacNoob

    MacNoob piney fresh

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    Oh yeah, I know I'll pay the GST/PST at the border - but hope to avoid the "pay state sales tax and get it refunded later" runaround.
  7. bmwnewbie

    bmwnewbie Been here awhile

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    There is a few changes to importin vehicles fro US to Canada. You do not fax your documents to the US Border 72 hours prior to your arrival. It has to be scanned and emailed, the process is called AES. This can be done for you by a broker and cost US$50.00. Regarding the ITN, the broker will send you an AES document in the document it asks for an ITN, you simply fill in that line with your passport number. I used A. D. Rutherford, Becky Vagle, 701-825-6290, in Pembina, North Dakota. They have done a few bikes for me.

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  8. MacNoob

    MacNoob piney fresh

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    Had a chat with Pembina ND customs (where I would be crossing). They say I DO need the ITN/AES document - the broker will do that.

    Can someone clarify - if we're talking a NEW bike here - do I need to wait for some state to issue a title, or is the dealer documentation (bill of sale etc) sufficient? Some states can take 60 days to issue a title - and I 'm not *registering* in that state.

    This question applies both to the US and Canadian side, since they both want to see an ownership document with my name on it.

    More phone calls Monday.
  9. bmwnewbie

    bmwnewbie Been here awhile

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    I have never imported a new bike. I can't see the procedure being ant different. Can you import a new bike?

    If your buying a used bike from a dealer you can get a drive away permit which may be good for 30-60 days. If you already have a bike bring that plate, of course you'll have t o get the bike insured by your broker in Canada and drive it home. Don't you have a grace period to title the bike in Ontario, your going to have to go through the RIV inspection by Canadian Tire and then an out province inspection befor you can get your plate and registration.

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  10. MacNoob

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    Found this:

    https://help.cbp.gov/app/answers/de...2LzEvdGltZS8xNTAzOTM2Mzc1L3NpZC85T091Kmhybg==

    Acceptable proof of ownership when exporting a vehicle without a title
    What documents are considered valid proof of ownership for Customs and Border Protection (CBP) purposes when exporting a vehicle / car from the U.S. which does not have a title?

    If the vehicle or car you intend to export does not have a title, a manufacturer's statement of origin (MSO) is considered valid proof of ownership.

    If you do not have the title because your state does not issue titles for your type of vehicle, the state should provide you with documentation supporting that the state has no titling requirements for such vehicles. This holds the state responsible for your inability to present the title to CBP. Present the documentation along with the bill of sale or MSO.