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Discussion in 'Battle Scooters' started by S/W, May 15, 2018.
that friggin awesome!!
taiwan scootmoto or is it scootmotard
Hey - wait! I read on the interwebs that you can't take automatic scooters off road. The belt will get wet and slip and break and stuff.
That is road. (Typical Indian road - not tarmaced.)
Monsoon flooded road is another topic (potholes under the mud can cause a surprising full bath).
Our next scooter meetup??
Never heard that before . I ve heard of the 1900 belt driven slipping but thats diff since it's leather . I can see wet rubber belt whining like they do on a car but there's millions of scooters out there in india etc . Scooter are how people over there get cheap transport . Hero which use to be hero honda is one of the largest motorcycle markers in India. They has hybrid scooters that get 200 miles per gallon. People would by something that couldn't stand up to the shit roads and the insane driving over there.
Scooter off road ? Loads of yahama BWS 125 do that with tire that are 50/50 .
Interesting. I wonder how long it lasts. I noticed it was mostly CVT scooters. I wonder how many finished. My guess is that the ones that did finish were pretty well trashed. The problem is that it's not just water that gets in the CVT case, it's sand and dirt, which is part of mud. They are very abrasive, and will quickly grind up the precision components of the CVT. If you could ride a CVT scooter off road (without destroying it) I'd be doing that right now in the AZ desert, which is mostly silica sand. I used non O-ring chains on my dirt bikes, because that sand would chew up the O-rings in just a few hours. It also ground down the chains and sprockets fairly quickly, and required frequent replacement. A sealed CVT case would be a wonderful thing.
My better scooters had an air filter in the cvt ventilation.
Doesn't help in diving, but for common usage.
^It's called sarcasm. One of the reasons you don't believe everything you see on the internet.
I need to get some knee sliders. Didn't realize I needed some till I watched that video!
Racing eats up parts!! plain and simple. Race and you will pay, not matter what the vehicle.
I have watched a lot of videos from India, and it appears that even riding across town is an adventure.
India does not look like a fun place to ride to me.
As for the filters on scooter CVT cases, they are not enough to stop much of anything. On my former XT225, which had a thick oiled foam filter, I would wash it in gasoline, then soak it in oil, and squeeze some of it out. I still left a lot. After one day of riding in the desert, that filter would be caked with an inch of oily dirt, and there would be a handful of oily dirt in the bottom of the airbox. But nothing got through the filter. Most of the reason was because it was soaked in oil. But another reason is because it was protected inside an airbox. And, it was the only way for air to get into the carb. Part of the problem with CVT filters is they are simply not capable of stopping that kind of dirt. But a bigger issue is that all CVT covers have TWO openings. One in front, right over the fan. That is where the filter is, and where the fan sucks in cooling air. But that air has to have a way to get out. There is a second vent near the rear of the cover, which has NO filter at all. It is completely open. On the road that is not a problem, because there is positive pressure (from the fan) at that vent, which blows dust and dirt out. That doesn't work on dirt roads and certainly not in water and mud. You might be able to rig some kind of filter for that vent, but it would likely reduce the flow of cooling air and cause the CVT to overheat.
Yes, racing eats parts. When I was racing MX as a teenager, I built my bike out of used parts, and kept it going with used parts. I could not afford new parts. This led to a lot of improvising. And learning. During that time I learned everything there was to know about 2 stroke MX bikes. And a lot of that has carried over to other bikes.
Of course I would ride in India mostly because of its culture and landscape (and visiting my relatives during everyday live) and not the roads itself.
(Except a few roads like Kolli Hills with 70 hairpins on tarmac which itself is a very nice ride.)
There some scooter clubs too ...
BTW: (very) adventurous scooting can also be in a big city.