Those things are SUPER. But the prices are crazy... They are really high class instruments. I'm using the "mini" on my 80st. It saves a lot of space on my dash and works exelent. But if I would have seen the rally type, I would have bought that one for that bike. On a R69 i'm using the motoscope classic. And the tiny on a R65 trail bike ( project) The only thing is that the wires are really thin.