Intiminators - Great Mod for the F658 twin !!

Discussion in 'Parallel Universe' started by Navaho, Jul 26, 2009.

  1. Navaho

    Navaho Long timer

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    My only complaint with the F650GS twin has been the soft suspension. Recently, I heard about a new product by Ricor called "Intiminators". The V-Strom guys had good reviews. I had installed a similar product in my DR650 call cartridge emulators by Race Tech, and they worked great.

    This weekend, I installed the Intiminators in my 2009 F650GS Twin. The improvement is absolutely amazing!! It made so much difference that I'm thinking about taking off the Tourances that I just installed and reinstalling TKC's again. I ran TKC's when the bike was new but took them off after two rides. I kept bottoming out the the front suspension on small hits. I was quite dissapointed in the F650 off road, and was contemplating trading it in for an F800. But not anymore. Yesterday I was riding wheelies over water bars and going places that I had never dared to go on this machine until now. It's like a different bike.

    The front doesn't sag like it did before and there in much less front-end dive when braking hard. Even if you don't do any offroad, you will still benefit greatly from this mod. The bike is more controllable on braking and soaks up the nasty bumps and potholes.

    Where the Intiminators really make a difference is on the hard hits at over 30 mph - potholes, curbs, bad washboard, etc. I came across some really bad washboard bumps on a dirt road yesterday, and at 40 mph I was expecting a violent reaction but I was amazed! It was like they were not there. The bike just "floated" over them. My DR650 with Race Tech emulators is not this smooth. The problem with the emulators is that the stiffer you set them (valve spring preload), the harsher they feel on the sharp hits. There's no trade off with the Intiminators. The damping force is progressive - soft on small hits yet amazingly effective on the big bumps.

    I've got a set to put in my DR650 too. Can't wait to try them out!

    Although Ricor does not yet show that this product is available for the F650 twin, they do have the right size available. Just tell them what you are looking for.

    http://store.ricorshocks.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=47

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  2. RicorSHX

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    Thanks Navaho for the great review.

    We will get these listed on the website Monday. We will also offer a 50% discount off of the msrp so we can get the 'word of mouth' ad campaign going.
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  3. Durangoman

    Durangoman Yeah its me!

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    Good post

    :clap
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  4. JRWooden

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    50% ... that's good :clap THANKS!

    Seems like a very easy modification; my bike is coming up on a year old.... maybe a good time to change the fork oil as well. (ADDED: Reading the other threads I see that swapping to 5 wt. fork oil is recommended)

    Is there any maintanence required longer term on the Intiminators?
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  5. llamapacker

    llamapacker Mr. Conservative

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    I'm interested for my wife's F650GS twin.
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  6. KimR

    KimR Been here awhile

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    Where did you find this review by "the V-Strom guys"? I cannot find any Intiminators for the V-Strom listed on the mfr.'s webpage. They do have a V-Strom page, but it only lists fork oil.
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  7. Navaho

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    It's one of those mods that you may think is unecessary but once you experience the benefits, you'll probably agree that it's one of the best mods you ever made.
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  9. huckleberry

    huckleberry BACK ROAD BOMBER

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    thanks for the tip navaho i just ordered a set will report back when i get a bit of time on them!
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  10. huckleberry

    huckleberry BACK ROAD BOMBER

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    Ok so i put them in --pretty easy, used 530ml 5 wt oil ---the 1/2 inch additional preload brings ride height up close (for me,220#) to where it should be short ride down dirt road and over some man holes says the do indeed help,would guess 75 % of riders would be happy here but i think i'm goona try to get better good bang for the buck thou
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  11. RaY YreKa

    RaY YreKa Palanquins RTW

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    An Inmate in the DR750/800 thread has installed these on the DRBig and rates the product highly.
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  12. Thorvald

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    Just got mine in the mail today, thanks Ricor for the coupon!

    Hope to have em installed in a few days (if the damn snow/sleet holds off lol).

    Cheers
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  13. markymcd

    markymcd Been here awhile

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    Is the discount still valid??? if so what is the code...

    sounds like a great mod but don't really want to spend $300
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  14. Thorvald

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    The old coupon code "advrider" expired on Oct 31st. If anyone finds a new code, please let me know as I'd like to order a set for my F800ST as well.

    Cheers
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  15. Hal@Ricor

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    May be old news and you already know but the "advrider" coupoun code was extended to 6/2010 for 30% off. :clap Sorry for the long response. Too many forums to check and even if I post on this one I do not get notified there is another post on a thread that I may have previously posted on.
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  16. levity

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    I'll second Navaho's comments above. :clap

    Big improvement in handling on pavement with Intiminators in my F650GS2 -- much less brake dive and a more composed, "planted" feeling during cornering. Handled some big bumps I intentionally hit quite well. Will try 'em off-road when my skid plate and Heidenau K60s get here.

    The Intiminators increased preload by about 13mm since I didn't cut the OEM spacers. This reduced the "race" sag (i.e., + rider) from 2.5" (35%) to 2.1" (30%). I'd normally aim for ~25% sag (requiring stiffer rate springs), but the Intiminators seem to keep the front end higher in the stroke and I have bottomed them out yet so new springs may not be necessary. (For reference I'm ~185 lb with gear and have the rear shock preload set to max.)
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  17. JRWooden

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    Hey folks...

    I have F658GS twin...

    I'm probably going after a pair of these as well.
    I guess with 30% discount we are looking at roughly $200?
    Any better/similar deals to be had?

    I have Rev #4 of the manual and it calls out 7.5wt fork oil,
    but alas does not say how much by volume or level in the fork only to use the BMW special "dipstick" ... to measure it ............

    I've got their dipstick right here.............:lol3

    Ok seriously ... I'm sure somebody measured the oil height..
    (springs out, forks fully compressed?)

    What numbers did ya get?

    Is 7.5 wt good for refill? On the Ricor website they imply that 5 wt oil is better???

    I am about 185 lbs also ... when off-roading I typically carry only a little bit of gear...

    Thanks!
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  18. markymcd

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    go with the 5 for starters but i don't think 7.5 will make too much of a difference. They say 5 cuz it will flow better through the valve. I think BMW says 150mm from the top of the fork leg to the oil level (spring out and fork compressed). I think a bunch of us have been doing 100mm and having good results.
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  19. JRWooden

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    Thanks!

    100mm eh?

    in the past when I have dropped the levels much below factory the shocks tend to "top out" easily ...
    Maybe if I was paying attention, adding more oil over factory setting seemed to increase damping rate a bit???
    So going "higher" than stock is that what you guys are seeing - a bit stiffer damping?
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  20. markymcd

    markymcd Been here awhile

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    It's raising the level of oil... 100mm of space from the top of the tube to the oil top level (unless i'm misunderstanding your point).
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