Introducing the Northern New England Adventure Trail

Discussion in 'GPS Tracks - Northeast, Southeast & Florida' started by Canuman, Mar 3, 2012.

  1. AndytheElder

    AndytheElder Adventurer

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    I was able to get up north last weekend for a couple of days on the NNEAT before heading on to Fundy NP. I started out from Coleman SP and bailed in the Millinocket area. Just want to say thanks to Canuman and Dockingpilot for their efforts in laying this route out. For a boy from Connecticut, being able to cover such long distances off road was unimaginable! Thanks for the fun.

    Andy
  2. levain

    levain STILL Jim Williams

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    Is it valid on motorcycles? I thought it was only ATV's:ear
  3. DockingPilot

    DockingPilot Hooked Up and Hard Over

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    Yes, they are one in the same to the state


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  4. Canuman

    Canuman Crusty & Unobliging

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    I think it goes like this:

    Vermont distinguishes between ATVs and Motorcycles, and motorcycles are generally prohibited on ATV trails. ATVs are themselves prohibited on much state land, but street-legal, plated motorcycles are not, so long as you're on a road. (The definition of a road is fairly loose.)

    NH requires a sticker for both ATVs and Motorcycles on OHV trials, although motorcycles are still prohibited in some areas.

    Dockingpilot explained Maine.

  5. ForestFrog

    ForestFrog Been here awhile

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    Hi riders,

    I started my trip planning for this Summer and I will be riding this entire route from Van Buren ME to Harvey Lake VT! This is our first ADV trip of more than 2 days on a my motorcycle, and I convince my friends to come along but it puts pressure on me cause if I screw up they will never want to come again on a trip

    If I understand in this thread, it doesn't seem to be an issue about going from Parmachenee Rd crossing onto Magalloway Rd on the College Grant and coming out in Pittsburg NH? Or I should take the other route that goes around it but it don't seem as nice and more black stuff on the ground?
    Is there anything else I need to know about the route?

    Thanks!
  6. DockingPilot

    DockingPilot Hooked Up and Hard Over

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    That's a tough call. Mallogway Mountain rd. was open on the inaugural trip. Our 2nd trip it was gated on the NH side but still easily go aroundable. The cabin owner we stayed with told us it was ok.
    Your right it's a very nice ride that way. Just hard to say on it's accessibility.


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  7. ForestFrog

    ForestFrog Been here awhile

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    Thanks, I'm pretty sure that's the road I will take then.
  8. Canuman

    Canuman Crusty & Unobliging

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    We ran the big loop from Lake Francis out to Aziscoos this fall. It was wide open. You can skirt around the College Grant, pretty much. Them Dartmouth boys can be a bit sniffy.

  9. ForestFrog

    ForestFrog Been here awhile

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    Well my GPS file is pretty much done for this trip thanks to all of you!! Now I need to focused on some gear that im missing and a couple of beer meetings with the ridding buddies to finalize the planning!
  10. Canuman

    Canuman Crusty & Unobliging

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    I see your avatar. Watch for large ungulates. I had a deer jump an embankment on that run, and come way too close for comfort. I assume you know the foibles of moose.

  11. ForestFrog

    ForestFrog Been here awhile

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    Thanks for the warning! I don't know if you been to New Brunswick before but moose and deer are everywhere in this province also. The logging roads in Maine looks pretty much the same as here, and I'm aware that they can pop out of the woods in a blink of an eye, it happen before.
  12. Canuman

    Canuman Crusty & Unobliging

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    I've ridden in New Brunswick. It's a place I'd like visit again soon. It's a lovely province. You will find the terrain on the NNEAT pretty similar, although it is more mountainous than much of what I experienced in NB.

    One thing you will find is that cell service is significantly worse in many areas than you'd find in Canada. In many areas there is none. While riding Newfoundland last August, we received warnings that the cell coverage was very poor. In most cases, we were at least able to text while surprisingly far off the beaten track. Don't expect that here. If you are going solo, I'd highly recommend bringing some type of tracking device.

  13. devo2002

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    It's 85 here in LA right now so I can't complain, but oh how I miss the lush northeast for sure. :cry


    Just not in winter.:lol3
  14. Canuman

    Canuman Crusty & Unobliging

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    Did you set those wildfires, Devs?

  15. Rusty Rocket

    Rusty Rocket Life behind "Bars"

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    I'm gonna be in Derby, VT at some point this summer. I would like to try some of this route. Probably Canaan - Houlton. Do I have to have any ORV stickers? Thanks for creating these.
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    I think only if you run the state maintained railbeds Russ. We all them on our bikes.


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    Rusty Rocket Life behind "Bars"

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    Thanks Frank. :wave
  18. Canuman

    Canuman Crusty & Unobliging

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    No stickers needed with a plate in VT.

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  20. Grinnin

    Grinnin Forever N00b

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    For permits, ATVs and motorcycles are the same. Kinda.

    ATV trails in Maine are sometimes organized and maintained by the state and sometimes organized and maintained by private clubs. The clubs make the trails for different purposes.

    Many of the clubs are all snowmobile and ATV riders. If the trail is on a public right-of-way (such as a rail-trail) then it automatically allows motorcycles with ATV stickers. Most of the trails are on private land. When the club negotiates access with the landowner, they may allow motorcycles or not.

    Another difference is what constitutes a trail. I've been on some in the center of Maine that are very long puddles, or a field of marshy hummocks -- roughly 1' round 1' tall spaced about 1' apart. They'd be great with 2 feet of snow, but there's no "trail" when it's bare ground.

    One trail on which I capsized in '11 is no longer motorcycle-legal. I don't know if the landowner changed or the club didn't like the thinner ruts or if a motorcyclist got in trouble there or some other reason. It was a marshy area but other than my capsize it was a nice connector between the Princeton area trails and the northern trails.

    It's a bit of a catch-22 in parts of the state where there seem to be no clubs with motorcycle riders and no trails that allow motorcycles.

    I'm really not familiar enough with the northern trails to comment on if ANY of this pertains to the NNEAT. A couple people mentioned the Sunrise Trail on which a motorcycle needs an ATV sticker. The motorcycle is legal on just under half of the trails that branch off the Sunrise Trail.

    ATV stickers area available at Maine town offices. The town office here is open 2 afternoons a week -- good luck. If I was coming from out-of-state I'd probably ask at one of the state parks that has both ATV trails and camping (i.e. an office) -- they'd HAVE to sell the week-pass version of the sticker. Right?