Irl 2013

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  1. wxwax

    wxwax Excited Member

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    Jeez, I'm kinda surprised y'all enjoyed it so much. Obviously a crazy number of lead changes. But it was pack racing, basically, one draft pass after another.

    When lead changes are as common as pennies, they lose their value. Kanaan got a lucky break when Franchitti wrecked. Otherwise, one of four or five other guys might be the champ, based on who was in the best position to slingshot for the lead. That doesn't feel very special. I guess I'm the contrarian here?
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  2. Motorcyclist

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    Indy is always going to be pack racing. It is difficult to run side by side through the corners at that speed, and then you factor in those with the best set-up and it limits who can run at the front. The case this year is that there were probably 10 cars with a legitimate shot to win the race, and the lead pack was often 6-8 cars at any one time. There was a lot of racing within the packs as well, and all day drivers were getting shuffled back, then having to make their way back up the order.

    Had it gone green to the end there is no telling who would have won, but TK ran up front all day and if it had to end under caution, I'm glad he was the guy in the lead.
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  3. pbarmy

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    Would you rather a F1 follow the leader with no passing?What is your definition of a race?:huh
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  4. wxwax

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    I have a shaky memory but I don't remember a race like this one. Typically a fast car is able to pull away, before yellows bunch the field again.

    This time they all stayed in touch, swapping places every lap. As I said, when passing is this cheap, it doesn't really feel like racing.

    I assume it's the new formula, although I don't remember last year being this bad. It stretches credulity to believe that so many teams prepared cars with identical performance. I'm not sure if IndyCar thinks it's a problem or not. We'll see, I guess.
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  5. Motorcyclist

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    Judging by the fans reaction, I don't think anyone at IMS will see it as a problem.
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  6. wxwax

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    Lowest ratings on record. Of course, that may have nothing to do with the quality of the race itself. It may just be a step in a long trend of declining ratings.

    It makes me sad to read about ratings like these. But I have to say, it's hard to root for a series which shoots itself in the foot so often. Firing Randy Barnard, for example, upset a lot of the dwindling fan base.
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  7. lewismedlock

    lewismedlock Tiny dancer.

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    I don't like hearing about the bad ratings. But I'm going to be an optimist. My local paper, which never covers Indycar, had two articles about yesterday's race. I'm going to hope that good press coverage will translate into more viewers for next weekend.
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  8. swimmer

    swimmer armchair asshole

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    I didn't see any energy drink sponsorship on drivers or cars in the last 50 laps that I watched. Did I miss it or is this the only series in the world where there are not energy drink dollars flowing in?
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  9. wxwax

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    Last season Marco had one Now he's RC Cola (I didn't realize they were still around. There's a joke there somewhere.)

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  10. green hell

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    our usual group went and everyone was amazed. it started like the '92 race (cold, early yellows), then sorted itself out quickly.

    the 0800 security switch on georgetown did not go smoothly, and the cold temps mellowed out the crowd too.

    but it was a great race, with lots of passing (not just for the lead) but all through the field. munoz had a great showing, and if that race had finished under green it would have been a finish like the indy lights race.

    jim nabors was there, florence henderson wasn't. win-win. :lol3

    i left my seat one time during the race.

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  11. wxwax

    wxwax Excited Member

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    :clap Thanks for the race report!
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  12. green hell

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    i've got the race on my dvr; haven't had a chance to watch it yet. left indy on monday and went for a week-long ride. watching the first detroit race right now.

    with the temperatures so low and a couple of early yellows, i thought we were going to have another crash-fest like 1992. i never imagined that we'd see the fastest race ever. it seemed like there was overtaking down the front straight ever single lap (whether or not there was is another story :lol3).

    the guys i go with are from wisconsin, and they left indy with the intention of busting ass back to kenosha and watching the race on tv, since much of the midwest is delayed as far as tv coverage. i don't know how much the ratings are affected by dvr use and the local blackout. still, it's an unfortunate trend.

    i thought bernard had a lot of potential, but wheldon's death undoubtedly guaranteed his ouster. they were still losing money and the canceled chinese race didn't help matters.

    on we go.
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    I'd cancel any race that didn't have a full field. If they can't fill 33 spots on the grid they need to cancel the race or reduce the size of the field for every race from now on including Indy. If they are getting 25 cars to show up, then drop the field to 21...this is about competition, if everybody is granted a starting spot then what's the damn point.
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  14. wxwax

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    I missed the Saturday race, but Sunday's event in Detroit was pretty entertaining. It's weird to have a winning driver who refuses to take to an oval. I understand why he made that decision, but it's odd.
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    Castroneves is now the sole owner of the points lead. Wow, this is a guy I thought was washed up two seasons ago. Well done.
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    he was incredibly fast relative to the rest of the field.

    still, not quite as racy as past events. i was suprised he could run away from the pack like that. seems like texas is normally a bit tighter.
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  17. wxwax

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    Yeah, that's what I was thinking. But after complaining about Indy's non-stop passing, I figured I should keep my mouth shut. :lol3
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  18. green hell

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    :rofl

    it was a little dry.
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  19. lewismedlock

    lewismedlock Tiny dancer.

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    I took a friend, a died-in-the-wool Cup fan to an IRL race at Texas a few years ago. During the first yellow he took of his headphones off and said, "Damn, these cars are faster under yellow than the Cup cars are under green".
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  20. lewismedlock

    lewismedlock Tiny dancer.

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    Racing at Pocono live now on ABC.
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