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Iron, no Carbon Fibre Butt. Can I do it?

Discussion in 'Trip Planning' started by GoNOW, Jun 5, 2013.

  1. GoNOW

    GoNOW Long timer

    Feb 22, 2006
    I have a trip I need to make. I have 4.5 days to make 2,800, round trip. About 10 hours in the saddle each day. All freeway driving.
    I have done 400 miles in a day before, but I am not sure how doing double that for 4 days in a row will work.
    At this point, I am not sure if I want to ride the bike, or spend the money and fly.

    Any thoughts from anyone who has made a trip like this?
  2. High Country Herb

    High Country Herb Adventure Connoiseur

    Apr 5, 2011
    Western Sierras
    How was the 400 mile day? If it was easy, with no need to shift around in the seat, you can probably do it. Otherwise, you probably need a better seat, or a pad of some sort.
  3. GoNOW

    GoNOW Long timer

    Feb 22, 2006
    The 400 mile day was not fun, and I am not sure if I can double that or not.
    I have a new seat now and I will have a throttle lock this time.
  4. patmo

    patmo Been here awhile

    Dec 2, 2010
    butler, ky/Franklin, tn
    How are your tires? And how long do you usually get out of a new set, especially the rear? On many large bikes, 2800 miles of highway will permently square off the tires and they will need replacement. If that is going to be the cae with yours, then you have to consider that cost as well.

    Also...are you going to ENJOY the ride? Sure if money is the issue, and you are wanting to ride to save money, then you can probably suck it up and make the ride....but if you are going to just hate it the whole time, and you can afford to do it in a more enjoyable way, then why do it the hard way?

    By the way...CAR rentals can be done cheaply......unlimited mileage, better fuel mileage than many bikes, and more comfortable (A/C, heater, weather protection, stereo, etc.) than many bikes.

    I LOVE to ride, have done 1000 mile days, have done a 2800 mile bike trip,......but if I have to make a long trip that's all expressway, I will drive or fly everytime. Slabbing it on a bike ain't my idea of fun.
  5. GypsyWriter

    GypsyWriter Sarah

    Aug 28, 2009
    Visalia CA
    Honestly, 700 miles every day isn't hard, especially with longer daylight. The trick I've found is to start early in the morning. Resist the urge to sleep in, get on the road before 7 or 8am, and ride until near dark. You can take extended breaks if you want, but you'd be amazed at how quickly you eat up the miles.

    That said, a good seat really, REALLY helps. Make sure you have that sorted (I'm a huge Sargent fan, but find what works for you) before you head out, and you'll be much happier. :thumb
  6. Seppo

    Seppo Been here awhile

    Mar 26, 2009
    Austria "Mostviertel"
    what bike are you using?
    i did 800kms on a ducati 916, from 6 in the morning till 9 in the evening. all of it was twisties in the alps. its possible on pretty much any bike.
    i say, limit the short breaks and only stop for fuel, but make fuel stops longer breaks. if you´re not sightseeing and stopping every 10km for a picture, i think its easy.
  7. GoNOW

    GoNOW Long timer

    Feb 22, 2006
    My ride will by my KTM 950. I have a set of touring tires that have 75% of the tread left, but are getting old. So I would like to use them up now. So tire cost is not an issue.
    I could take my truck and drive, but after fuel cost, it would be cheaper to fly.

    On my bucket list is to visit every state by motorcycle. This trip would knock off 2 states from the list. I guess I am trying to do the kill two birds with one stone thing in getting this trip done, and doing a little riding.

    When I figure in Hotel rooms, it will likely be about the same cost as flying in for the day. And I can be in and out in 2 days instead of 4. But I have to deal with the airport, car rental, and all that not fun stuff.
  8. acejones

    acejones Long timer

    May 14, 2005
    MS. Gulf Coast and Puerto Vallarta, MX
    Fly. Its why God gave us the Wright brothers. You'll be fresher and far more relaxed at your destination. You won't have to deal with weather issues (much). You will have to deal with the TSA.
  9. rockmurf

    rockmurf IBA #31100

    Feb 27, 2006
    This is easy. FLY. you said the 400 mile ride wasn't fun. case closed Spend the money and fly. When you get home you can do all the 700 mile back to back that you want, if you want.
  10. falcon20x

    falcon20x Adventurer

    Nov 21, 2009
    Dallas, TX
    Plenty fluid, stay hydrated. You will be amazed what a difference it makes.
    Invest in camelback or something like it.

    I use buttwax paste. I know it is funny ( ha ha ha ) but it works and your behind will thank you
  11. kuroda_tadayoshi

    kuroda_tadayoshi Kuroda

    May 20, 2011
    Seattle, WA
    Everyone who says fly is absolutely right. It is the only sane choice; given the type of ride and comfort level.

    That said, fuck it. Ride it. ADV. We aren't sane and reasonable.

    It won't be that fun, but you may grin about the experience later. I would. Hell, I grin just thinking about something as boring as a slab ride.
  12. BeefEater

    BeefEater BR 549

    Feb 27, 2012
    As much of a proponent of long rides as I am, I have to say that if you did not enjoy a 400 mile day then your not going to enjoy doing more miles for a longer period of time (mabye).
    However, I support stubborn bull-headed will and say go ahead and ride it if you think that there is a remote chance that you will enjoy it.
  13. Okie Preacher

    Okie Preacher Long timer

    Aug 11, 2010
    In the middle...
    Now granted, I am on a GS not a KTM 950 (that is one bad-assed KTM!), but 400 freeway miles a day isn't a big deal and it shouldn't take 10 hours of saddle time. Start early. Grab a cup of coffee and get 100 miles behind you before breakfast. Try hard to have close to 300 done by noon--which should take less than 5 hours averaging 65 mph. Knock out another tank of gas and 200 miles after lunch, quit early, kick up your feet, drink a beer and do it again the next day.

    3,500 mile loop through Ohio and the Carolinas for business scheduled for August. To Phoenix and back in October. I need to make three or four big loops a year for work. Unless they are in the dead of winter I always take the bike.

    As for flying... HELL NO! A bad day--rain, wind and nothing but interstate--beats a day being herded like cattle and seat 28C (behind a crying baby) into Atlanta. Make an adventure out of it and have some fun.

  14. xtphreak

    xtphreak from B4 "adventure bikes"

    Jul 21, 2004
    Back in WNC
    what he said :nod

    I fly to work every 3 weeks and I wish I had the time to ride it (but 4500 miles every 21 days would get tiresome too!!)
  15. chokozip

    chokozip Been here awhile

    Aug 29, 2006
    Princeton Minnesota
    Dont rush.Make sure you make regular stops and dont forget to drink lots of water.You will be fine.The first day will be ok.The second your ass will be a tad sore.The third num and the fourth you will be good to go.
    If you feel up to it crank out your first 1000 miles in 24 hours and document it.Get that iron butt cert:)

  16. ChildlikeWonder

    ChildlikeWonder Been here awhile

    Apr 21, 2013
    Hampton, VA
  17. drienkm

    drienkm n00b

    Sep 17, 2013
    1,594 miles from Bozeman
    I realize you probably already did or didn't make the ride, but for those poking around old threads like myself:
    I'd say if you're under 70 and are riding something other than a MX bike, you should be fine. I recently did 1,920 miles on an SV650N in 42 hrs including two 6 hr night sleeps in the middle. I've made allot of similar trips on standard/ sport bikes like the SV.
    In order of importance from a comfort standpoint IMHO:

    1: Stay hydrated! Even in cool/humid weather, the wind is sucking moisture out of you. I ride with a hydration pouch.

    2: Ear Plugs
    - Like people keep saying, they make a huge difference in fatigue.

    3: Keep a steady pace.
    -Stop about every 1.5-2 hrs or 100-170 mi for gas. (I spend about 10-15 minutes at each gas stop) Get off the bike, pee, eat a munchie, sip something tasty (keeps your spirits up).
    -Full meals are a bad idea when you are trying to really cover miles IMO (yes, I mean during the whole day riding). They drain you of energy (digestion) and disrupt your focus, not to mention take allot of time. Eat quality snacks at a rate of about 200 cal every 2 hrs. A Cliff bar at every gas stop is perfect for me - I arrive sharp and not hungry.

    4: Avoid wind buffeting
    - windshield / flyscreen if needed (mine is tiny, but just big enough to take the buffeting off my chest)
    -Close fitting gear (not flappy)

    5: Stay light and free to move
    -If you must wear a backpack, keep it really light and small

    Happy mile shredding :evil
  18. tallpaul63

    tallpaul63 Been here awhile

    Jun 3, 2009
    1) you're not going to save much money.

    2) If anything goes wrong during the trip, you don't have any buffer in your schedule to handle it. Makes for stress.

    3) If anything goes right in your trip, you won't have time to linger and savor it.

    4) Counting coup on the number of states you visit is a poor way to justify taking the bike. What's memorable for me on a trip are the conversations I find with strangers, the great meals in cool roadside restaurants, catching a great sunrise or sunset, and taking the time to soak up the vibe in a place I really like. Being mileage driven doesn't lend itself to these kinds of things. I like covering miles, but I think the sweet spot is 300 to 450 or so. YMMV.

    Good luck with it either way...but you asked, and I think you'd be happier taking the bike on a looser trip.
  19. 2wheel-dreamer

    2wheel-dreamer n00b

    Jul 17, 2011
    Gas station
    I'm with you that's a good time line(okie preacher). Why would ever fly when you could ride that KTM

    I love me AirHawk seat pad. More than a custom seat because I can move it from bike to bike or for my next bike too.
    drink lots water
    No large meals for breakfast or lunch they always make me tried and end my day of riding early
    Ear Plugs are a Great help with headaches from the wind noise & can help on the long day after day rides
    Motels are good after a few days of camping to refresh & to shower. Its like hitting reset button for me on long black top slabs

    Safe Trip
    no matter which way you go
  20. kwthom

    kwthom nOOb Adventurer

    Feb 12, 2012
    Jaynes Station, AZ
    Absolutely! You have 23h59m to do it; given the info you have in this thread already, 18-20 hours would be the goal.

    When you're 70 or 80, you can take the aircraft; if your body and your brain will you to do it, you'll do it.

    Yeah, I ride a road sofa... :lol3

    Luck to ya!