Is a used 2004 K1200GT serious bang for the buck, or what?

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  1. Donster

    Donster No trick too cheap

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    In the used market, a few-year-old BMW R1200GT seems like a lot of bike for the money. Any flaws that one should be aware of in, say, a 2004 model?
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  2. FizDog

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    Are you asking about a K1200GT? There is no R1200GT that I'm aware of.
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  3. JimVonBaden

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    It is very quick, and very heavy. Kind of long, so stable for distance, but a little slow on the turn-in in the twisties.

    It is called a "Brick" for a reason. Very reliable, and quite capable of going 200K miles.

    The only downside mechanically are the final drive is slightly weak, though most have no issies with it, and the ABS if Servo-equipped means a bit more work for maintenance, but that is not that bad either.

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  4. FizDog

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    So there is a R1200GT? :huh
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  5. kadesean

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    There is no R1200GT.
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  6. RocketJohn

    RocketJohn Hook em' Horns!

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    R1200GT... what would this be? an RS with more touring capabilities probably?



    if they really made it...
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  7. JimVonBaden

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    No, no R/GT anything, so I was figuring he was referring to a K1200GT, that is the only GT in 04, and there were no R1200's in 04 except the GS in Europe and CA, so the K1200GT was the only logical bike.

    [​IMG]

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  8. NativeSon

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    ive always thought they were one of the best deals out there on used bikes. i like the RS a little bit more than the GT, but either way i don't think you can go wrong. great bikes for the price. and they will run forever. if i wasnt in the market for an airhead gs, this is what i would buy.

    plenty of power, good ergonomics, tours well, and has the k bike reliability. what else could you want?
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  9. RocketJohn

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    some feeling in the handling, a lower center of gravity, more neutral ergos... the newer one seems to have figured it out more, but not as much as an R12RT...
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  10. NativeSon

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    i should have been more specific. i think the k12rs from the 90's are the best deal going. by the time it got to 2002, they were outdated. comparing them to a r12rt is unfair, especially when you consider the difference a decade makes.

    and my comment was relative to other bikes similarly priced to the 90's k12.

    it could also be pointed out that the things you mentioned are personal taste.
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  11. Donster

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    My bad -- I'm an R bike owner. I meant a K1200GT.

    Don't make fun, you'll be like this someday.
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  12. Donster

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    My dealer has a 2004 in that gray-green metallic color like the bike in the back of this photo. It has 10,563 miles and they are asking $9250. It's not perfect, but Jeez, under ten large for a ride like that seems cheap.
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  13. markjenn

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    If you like a big GT bike -- in the vein of a Blackbird or Busa -- and want the typical BMW features -- ABS, hard bags, heated grips, telelever -- it's a great bike and a superb value. But it won't perform with the much-cheaper Blackbird or Busa, doesn't have the overall weather protection, luggage capacity (the exhaust side bag is severely compromised), and comfort of something like the FJR or ST1300, and is quite cumbersome in the tight stuff compared to something like the R1150RT. It's somewhere right in the middle. Which is the best of all worlds or the worst of all worlds, depending entirely on your POV.

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  14. twinrider

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    Great motor on the earlier K1200 bikes. But I felt the riding position was awkward, with fairly high footpegs and a long reach to the handlebars. I've always wondered why BMW moved away from the K1000/1100's much more relaxed, comfortable riding position.
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  15. weerider650

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    I used to have a 2003 K1200GT. Too abusive for the ergos on long rides. Cramped leg room and tiny pegs leave the comfort level a bit less than desired. Its fast. My GT had a power commander and remus. Very quick! The weight of the Kmotor male it smooth. It is a brick and is very slow into the turns. Dont expect this to be anything like the R bikes. Its a bit fo a misfit bike to me. The people that enjoy the sporting position want ti to perform better int he twisites and the poeple that expect the sooth ride and straight line performance ususally buy bigger touring bikes. I think this why you see so many for sale and a huge depreciation.
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  16. Donster

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    All good points. Scratching it off the list...
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  17. sideshow

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    I wouldn't. What are you looking for in the bike?

    The GT has a few add-ons over the RS's (heated seat, electric windshield (IIRC), and a few plastic trim parts). And the RS bikes are a steal, for sure. I've seen some hard to pass up deals in the sub 7K with less than 20K! Aftermarket takes care of the cramped bars, and too-sporty (if you think) pegs. Barbacks made the bike go from unrideable to rideable for a 6'4" guy I know. Lowering kit helped the knees. The two-position seat also helps this, yet most non-owners are unaware of the feature.

    People will complain about low-speed weight and the iABS leaving you without brakes when the key isn't on. While both true, they shouldn't be a deal breaker. Plenty of them out there waiting to be run up to 100,000 with very little maintenance. I've yet to hear of the '02-04 K1200RS/GT have a final drive failure. Three gears to 100mph. It's not 1100XX fast, but it's certainly a more exciting powerband than the FJR offers. The new GT chassis made these 'outdated.' They are a bit heavier, but they'll cross statelines with ease, and can do it comfortably with a few aftermarket add-ons. Solid design, IMO. A friend has 100K on his. I rode it last fall and it felt like it had 5K miles on it. So tight compared to my R-bike with almost-equivalent miles -- which is showing its age from a decade's engine vibrations.

    Weighty, but stable and smooth. But I wouldn't throw it out entirely. Lots of bike for the dough. Test rides will help decide.
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  18. Donster

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    My dealer is always pushing stuff on me to test ride -- I'm not sure, but I think they want to sell me something -- so I may have to give this one a go. Doing a little research, I was surprised to find out how heavy it was -- something like 640 lb dry. If it has a high CG as some else said, that could make it a handful in low speed manuveurs. Just to look at it, I wouldn't have guessed that much.

    Also, my bike has iABS, and I like this feature a lot. I have brakes with the key off; I just have to squeeze harder.
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  19. twinrider

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    Doesn't hurt to take it for a spin. It's been a while but I remember thinking that the bike handled quite well for its class. And you'll love the motor.
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  20. FlagRS

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    '04 GT with 10K miles would be a great bike.
    My wife purchased a new '04 KRS in the summer of '05 and put 38K miles on it in a little over two years. She too complained about the seat and the ergos on long multi day rides. And low speed parking lot maneuvers took a lot of concentration and hard work. A Sargent seat and some small bar backs helped a little. But most days she loved the big RS and rode it hard. At 5'7" and 115lbs it was a lot to handle. Now she rides a R12RT and is much more comfortable.

    I inherited the RS a little over a year ago and since have put about 22K miles on it. My experience with this bike has been a little different than hers. After dialing in the proper riding position, which took about 2 or 3 weeks, I found the bikes ergos to be very comfortable for long rides. The thing I enjoy most about the RS is its power and silky smoothness. I find the handling in the tight twisties very good. It's no walk in the park and requires high RPMs, but the results are awesome. IMO these K Bikes are great all around bikes and a joy to ride.

    There are some great deals out there on slightly used K Bikes. A 2004 GT with 10K at $9,250 sounds a little high considering you will pay sales tax too. I would try to get them below the $9K or $9K out the door including all taxes and fees. Get them to throw in an extended warranty too, they have lots of money and a used bike is cash to pay bills for them.
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