Is it ok to filter to b 1st?

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by GSAragazzi, Sep 30, 2012.

  1. LittleRedToyota

    LittleRedToyota Yinzer

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    so what grade level does the entitlement mentality of "fuck everyone else who is waiting in line...i'm entitled to go to the front of the line because i'm special" correspond to?
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  2. Human Ills

    Human Ills Useful Idiom

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    No.

    The accusation was that lane-sharers were trying to justify behavior that we thought was wrong.

    It's not wrong.

    I'm not justifying shit.
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  3. windmill

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    You do know it's illegal in 49 states?
    You stated your reasons for doing it anyway.

    If that's not making excuses, I don't lnow what is.
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  4. RxZ

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  5. Tjocksteffe

    Tjocksteffe I was

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    Well, have to return, thinking.... hmmmm, you're not worth it yo egoistic fucktard :lol3
    ( I was here before yadayada!!! (bitter old womensmeily))

    You even ride????? , don't think so!
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  6. eatpasta

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    totally agree. a few years ago my wife and I were on a bike trip up there in Washington and I had heard that state troopers LOVE to give lane splitting tickets, so I had to actively THINK about not lane splitting. This was augmented by the traffic which was surprisingly bad. At one point our GS was overheating and I had to pull onto the side of the freeway - which if you ask me is substantially more dangerous than allowing bikes to use the available space to move up.
    A trooper pulled up and asked me what was the deal. I told him the bike was overheating because I wasn't allowed to lane split so I was waiting for it to cool off. He told me to move on and I told him my bike had overheated because I was not allowed to lane split. He then told me to move on and I told him I couldn't because my bike had overheated.....you get the idea.
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  7. eatpasta

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    well let's be honest, who among us started riding so that they can sit in traffic.... really now
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  8. klaviator

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    For those against lane splitting and filtering, here's a something you can put on your bike...............or maybe your minivan.

    [​IMG]
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  9. Human Ills

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    I know.
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  10. JimVonBaden

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    Wait, did someone actually say it shouldn't be allowed? I think many said it isn't, and some said it is a bad idea where it isn't allowed, but I don't recall anyone saying it shouldn't be allowed.:deal

    Jim :brow
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  11. Human Ills

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    If that's not wrong, then I don't know what is.
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  12. JimVonBaden

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    Jo momma is in the basement.:deal

    Jim :brow
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  13. larryboy

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    I've commuted on a TW200, also known as the worlds slowest motorcycle and even that thing could beat the cars off the line.

    I commute 175 miles per day on a CBR250R right now and short of a Lambo there isn't anything on the road that can beat my 60 foot times.

    Back to filtering, I have actually saved my own life by filtering, I entered the share zone and the car that had been behind me slammed the last car in line, KABOOM, I would have been killed instantly.

    I do whatever it takes to stay alive, I'll run a stop sign right past a cop to keep a mower from mowing me down...sorry, AJ. :freaky
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  14. Human Ills

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    F n A
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  15. tattoogunman

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    This same topic came up in Twtex.com (Two Wheeled Texan) and I'll say here what I said there (more or less). I was in law enforcement for 16 years and as already stated, here in the U.S., it's more or less illegal in most places. Since the OP said they don't care about that, I'll go to my second point and a few people have already hit on it.

    Let's face it - right, wrong, or indifferent and regardless of what you ride, there is a stigma in this country against/towards motorcyclists. When people are sitting in traffic in their &#8220;cages&#8221;, the last thing they want to see is someone flying by them on the shoulder on their bike effectively &#8220;skipping line&#8221; as someone on here has already stated. Oh I get it, don&#8217;t get me wrong &#8211; I totally get the urge to want to do it. But let us be a bit civil (if that&#8217;s the right word to use here) and think about what we are doing. All you&#8217;re doing is pissing off everyone else on the road and then people wonder why people have an attitude towards motorcyclists. I got lambasted on Twtex for saying the same thing. People complained about everything from bikes overheating to being hot in their gear as excuses to break the law and get ahead of everyone else in traffic or other situations.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>

    As has already been said &#8211; you&#8217;re going to ride however it is you decide to ride on a given day. But all I would ask is that you think about what you&#8217;re doing and then justify why you&#8217;re any different than any other motor VEHICLE on the road that is expected to obey the traffic laws. Just because you are on two or three wheels instead of four does not give you any more right to break the law than anyone else. Do it and expect to pay the potential consequences. If you can justify it on whatever level you want to justify it, that&#8217;s fine, but it doesn&#8217;t make it right. And no, during the times that I have had a motorcycle, I've never done it and don't plan to ever do it :wink:
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    Tough to read!

    Well said!

    Jim :brow
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  17. eatpasta

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    dood you ride 200 miles a day on that new CBR.... how does it handle it?

    :ear

    and just like you, having kept an eye on my mirrors, and moved up between cars have managed to avoid being creamed by someone going WAY too godammed fast several times. At least two of those times the car rammed the car I was just behind.... dont want to think about what would have happened....

    as far as the lawnmower, I was on a super narrow part of Santa Monica on the GS - there was no room!

    :cry

    and I totally agree - ill take a ticket any day of the week to avoid being hit. I can't tell you how many laws Ive had to break in this city to avoid getting rammed by one of millions of asshat car drivers in the this town.
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  18. TFuse

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    I commute most days through DC traffic, and I'll admit to some selective filtering, especially when there is a nice gap to go through, its hot, I'm hot, and there is no opportunity for cars to make lefts or rights from their single file. Never had any issues. Bicycles do the same thing 100% of the time, as well as fail to stop at red lights, stop signs etc. (once had a bicyclist with a six-pack of beer hanging from his handlebar bang the beer cans off my fender as he rode by me, and then gave me the finger) I think in DC at least, the LEOs have given over traffic enforcement to traffic cameras.
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  19. SgtDuster

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    This!

    Pass the law "worldwide" (I'm in Canada), put adds in newspaper, TV, wherever you want to "educate" the cagers or at least to let them know that now we can filter and I'm in.

    It's like turning right on red lights. It was illegal in Quebec something like 10 years ago and let me say that it was a pretty bad idea to even try to do it anyway. Not just about fines and "legal" stuff but because nobody was expecting you to do it.


    It's now legal. It's a whole new story because it's expected.
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  20. RxZ

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    Meh, you know what I meant. This was basically my way of "justifying" filtering by showing studies done on the subject and thereby hopefully educating some people. Do I personally do it? In four years of riding I have maybe five times. I just do not have a need to where I live. Would I do it more if I lived in a major city and commuted by bike? Probably. But I know what could happen, both by LEOs and vigilantes and I think I am ok with what the likely outcomes are (nothing would happen).

    To answer the OP's question:

    Is it OK to do it? Under the right circumstances sure, you won't get hurt.

    Is it legal to do it? In Texas, no.
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