Is Mexico Safe?

Discussion in 'Americas' started by Arte, Feb 1, 2010.

  1. PirateJohn

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    Arrested kingpin says Mexican cartel nearing extinction

    Published June 24, 2011 | EFE

    MEXICO CITY – Jesus "El Chango" Mendez, leader of the La Familia Michoacana drug cartel, told authorities after his arrest this week that the organization is close to complete collapse, Mexico's Public Safety Secretariat said.

    The detainee, who was captured in a police operation in the central state of Aguascalientes without putting up any resistance, said in remarks released Thursday that La Familia is "going to be dismantled" and that its days are numbered.

    Mendez is one of the founders of the gang that emerged in the western state of Michoacan in 2006 and is known for its pseudo-religious ideology and for portraying itself as the defender of the state's residents.
  2. Tall Man

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    This is from a friend in the international security business:

    "... just got back from a security detail in Ciudad Juarez.

    Guns there are in the hands exclusively of the most violent, while genuinely good people are prohibited from possessing them. And, when BHO claims to worry about 'militarizing the border,' he needn't. It is already the most militarized border in this Hemisphere. Only the USA is (voluntarily) unrepresented!

    Driving in from El Paso, travelers are greeted by a barrage of signs, in English and Spanish, warning that firearms are prohibited, and stiff prison sentences will be imposed upon any who dare try to have some means of self-protection. But, in this region where violent death exceeds levels in Kabul and Baghdad combined, one can only wonder who are obeying this no-gun rule!

    Legal ownership of guns in Mexico, by normal citizens, is nearly impossible. However, everywhere you turn, police and military troops are armed to the teeth. Meanwhile, equally well-armed cartel members, in contemptuous defiance of government and the law, create fake military road blocks in an effort to steal SUVs, trucks, and other vehicles, always (your guessed it!) at gunpoint.

    Military personnel, thanks to HK's transparent magazines, obviously carry fully-charged magazines, unlike our own military who, when deployed to aid civil authority, carry empty guns. I'm not sure what they think they're going to learn from us!

    Cartel violence is now expanding into Reynosa and Monterrey.

    I continue to warn prospective travelers to avoid all border areas, indeed avoid the entire country!"

    Comments: Blundering, incompetent, dishonest governments, on both sides of the border, make this terrible situation more-or-less permanent. The safety and welfare of good and decent citizens is positively the last thing either government apparently ever worries about!

    As individuals, all of us need to understand that we are the only ones who care about the future of this civilization. The shrewd, pro-active, suspicious, and well-prepared might live to see it.

    Few of the rest have much chance!

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  3. Kiko

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    Well if you believe the Mexican Fed's statistics, since they moved Tijuana's sheriff to Juarez about 6 months ago, murder rate is now down 60%. He has a "take no prisoners" attitude.

    111 Americans murdered in Mexico last year, and about 1/2 of them werre involved in the drug trade in Juarez or other border cities. Over 1000 Americans murdered in Puerto Rico last year. Think about, You don't see the fear mongers warning anyone about traveling to Puerto Rico.

    I know it may be hard to believe, but if you read history, Mexico has been thru worse times and will survive this. There need to be a lot of changes on both sides of the border though,
  4. tricepilot

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  5. mark883

    mark883 and the mysterians

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    308 Americans (well maybe a couple Canadians or someone else may have slipped in there) were murdered in Detroit last year.

    Source Reuters

    Using my irrefutable logic, Detroit is probably smaller than Mexico. So, if 111 gringos were murdered in all of Mexico last year, Detroit is by far more dangerous. Especially if you figure the geographic concentration of murders.

    For some odd reason, people still insist on going to Lions / Tigers games, and taking their lives in their hands.

    Foolishly last year, a friend and I rode up I-75 (Michigan Roulette @ 80mph) and ate at a BBQ place in the shadow of the old Michigan Southern Depot. We could have DIED! Just for BBQ ribs and locally brewed BEER!

    And in other newz, a crooked govenor, from a crooked city, in a (somewhat) crooked state, got convicted by the Federales of trying to steal / sell the Senate seat of a (insert adjective) Senator who moved onto other (adjective) things. That, and he tried to extort campaign contributions from a CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL.

    Crappy Peoplez is everywheres. Good Peoples is everywheres.
  6. Tall Man

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    Since 1917, people born in Puerto Rico have been given U.S. citizenship. I'm wondering how many of those 1,000 Americans were "real Americans" (i.e., Caucasians, as you allude to here) vs. native citizen residents of the island...who are also demonstrably "American".
  7. Bato

    Bato Been here awhile

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    :y0! Sign me up ., I can only do 600mi per day though
    Could we stop to attend a charreada and see escaramuza senoritas perform ?
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  8. SkizzMan

    SkizzMan There, that's it

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  9. mark883

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    Sounds good to me.

    Are the butterflies there yet at that time of year? Maybe if I'd stick around long enough.....
  10. Bato

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  12. tricepilot

    tricepilot El Gran Payaso

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  14. going south

    going south hero & Zero...

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    Hello all: I have been lurking here in "is Mexico safe" for awhile I thought I mite add what I have learned in my travels...

    I was in San cristobal de las casas, drinking beer watching the world go by, these two Canadian couples ask to share my table, sure no problem, we get to talking about safety in Mexico, turns out the guys are both higher ups in the Royal Canadian mounted police! they told me about a couple from canada that were murdered in cancun, local police never figured it out, so he says we'll go down there and show them how it's done in canada.... they did! turns out it was another Canadian that followed them down, some-kinda business deal gone bad, the murderer figured they'd blame it on the Mexicans and he'd be in the clear.... and he was almost.....

    Just something to ponder.....
  15. Bato

    Bato Been here awhile

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    Everything would be ok if they just imported some canadian cops...but they talk too much:lol3
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  16. SkizzMan

    SkizzMan There, that's it

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    Thank Chango! Always liked the song. First time seeing the vid. Took me back to Juarez trips in the 60's.
  17. SkizzMan

    SkizzMan There, that's it

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    Fixt :lol3

    JK, Mark.

    Hope you can join us for Dia de los Muertos in Oaxaca this fall. Should be a good time.
  18. tricepilot

    tricepilot El Gran Payaso

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    Hotels fill up well in advance for those three days in Oaxaca
  19. SkizzMan

    SkizzMan There, that's it

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    Noted.

    Thanks.
  20. MikeMike

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    I think your RCMP friends were mistaken about that couple in Cancun.
    If it was the couple from near Toronto, Woodbridge area, that were there for a wedding, one of the hotel staff was the suspect and he hasn't been seen since. The state prosecutor in Quintana Roo tried to pin it on two women who were tourists from Thunder Bay.
    The theory about the business partner was never considered seriously by anyone, and most people saw it as smokescreen to cover up the inept local constabulary.
    Here is a decent timeline, if the Mounties are sure the two mysterious Canadian women did it, I wonder why they haven't caught them?

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/mexico-murders/