Is Mexico Safe?

Discussion in 'Americas' started by Arte, Feb 1, 2010.

  1. PirateJohn

    PirateJohn Banned

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    They tried this a few years ago and the program lasted maybe two weeks. For some strange reason non one trusted the Banjercito (Army and Navy Bank) to hold the money.

    And that's what it boils down to. The military sees this as a slush fund they can tap into. :cry
  2. Bato

    Bato Been here awhile

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    Come on! John this pure pressure from the gringo car factories in Mexico to the congress the army doesn't make the laws
  3. Reposado1800

    Reposado1800 Juicy J fan!

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    HAHAHA. The chances of seeing the money again are slim. One thing that IS happening is people in mass are not returning their vehicle permits and causing all kind of mayhem in the system. They either go in and stay in, (paisanos) or come out and not turn in the sticker at the office. The customer doesn't care because they have no plans of ever going back to Mexico with all the trouble going down.
  4. PirateJohn

    PirateJohn Banned

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    More likely whoever collects the taxes on new and used cars wants to make sure they collect those taxes, one way or the other! :lol3

    Even down around Tampico I noticed a ton of cars with Texas plates.

    Alas, this is now going to mean that we have to shell out some serious money when we want to ride to Monterrey.
  5. acejones

    acejones Long timer

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    Won't be good for tourism. I'm not keen on making the Republic of Mexico a loan at no interest. I make enough of those to the United States.
  6. tricepilot

    tricepilot El Gran Payaso

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    Salma is getting ready to divorce/sue her billionaire French husband.

    The money is going to her legal team. Ergo, y'all should stop yer whinin' and complainin'
  7. PirateJohn

    PirateJohn Banned

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    Although I question how many tourists are actually driving around right now. I think that most are flying in.

    Still ... I agree that this is terribly short sighted.
  8. acejones

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    A previous post says 400 bucks. That ain't pesos. If it were pesos no body would care.
  9. Reposado1800

    Reposado1800 Juicy J fan!

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    There are some hard core people riding bicycles around Mexico. Its hard to get away from a truckload of Zetas though.:evil
  10. PirateJohn

    PirateJohn Banned

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    I am an old bicycle racer. On my trip with Arte and Andre last year I ran into a gringo about my age who was on a bicycle (with a trailer) who was wandering around Mexico without a clue and was hitting on the chicks at at Pemex truckstop just outside Victoria.

    With that said I think they are all nuts :lol3

    I might be wrong, but I don't exactly see the bicycle tourists as a windfall for the Mexicans.

    Us motorcycle tourists, on the other hand ... :evil:D
  11. Bato

    Bato Been here awhile

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    Me and shizzman had dinner last night here in Monclova I was impressed that the chef was from Minnesota it was only 400 bucks deposit it depends on the year of the vehicle
    be happy
  12. mundobravo

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    does this go for Motos also ?
  13. Reposado1800

    Reposado1800 Juicy J fan!

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    I am in the process of landing another job. After that I am going to be all over Mexico during the holidays and summer breaks.
    This is going to be my ride of choice. All I am missing is the 5 gallon IMS tank.
    [​IMG]
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    OK .. has anyone heard the cost for a motorcycle ???
  15. tricepilot

    tricepilot El Gran Payaso

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    Goes by year of manufacture not by make/model/style

    • Vehicles manufactured before 1996 require a guarantee deposit of $200 USD
    • Vehicles manufactured between 1996 and 2000 require a guarantee deposit of $300 USD
    • Vehicles manufactured after 2001 require a guarantee deposit of $400 USD
  16. acejones

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    Weren't they recouping from credit cards when the temp. vehicle imports weren't turned in ?
    I still don't want to make loans to the Mexicans. They can borrow from the International Monetary Fund like everybody else.
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    tricepilot El Gran Payaso

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    Disclaimer: I've been in Peru, not Mexico, in the last month, so I have no first hand knowledge of this seemingly recent change to vehicle bonding for the TVIP.

    Past practice was to "cover" the potential "penalty" with a credit card per the fee schedule posted a few clicks back. Your credit card was "pinged" but not actually charged until the end of the valid period with no turn-in. I never really understood the business practice behind that since technically you could use your card to obtain the TVIP and then cancel your credit card it if you had no intention on clearing Mexico with the TVIP and the bike.

    All this said, if they've abandoned the credit card system for a cash system of bonding the bike, good for them. I have no idea whats going on but if all this is as it appears from the few posts I've read, Banjercito Mexico is saying "screw it" to the credit card system and now bonding vehicles in cash. Maybe they're saying you have to pay up front to play, or so it seems.

    As a business model, if I had a bunch of people stiff me for the vehicle bond I too would go to a cash system. We here in the U.S. pay estimated taxes to the IRS in advance in certain instances, and we also pay capital gains but don't get credit on capital losses. The process sucks but good luck fighting the U.S. Governments business model. In other words, if this is indeed the new way of bonding bikes to travel Mexico, either get with it and get over it, or stay home. Your choice. Pretty much the same deal as in parsing through all the "news" about what's going on in Mexico. Stay home or play, your choice.
  18. acejones

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    Or........Banjercito was incapable of managing a credit card system. i.e., they couldn't keep up with the expiry dates on tvp's and then charge the associated cards.
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    tricepilot El Gran Payaso

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    tricepilot El Gran Payaso

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    Might be. Might not be. I have no freakin' idea. I don't even know what really has changed.

    When you find an obstacle, go through it, go around it, or go home.