Is Mexico Safe?

Discussion in 'Americas' started by Arte, Feb 1, 2010.

  1. acejones

    acejones Long timer

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    Where do you like to stay in Saltillo ?
  2. ChangoGS

    ChangoGS Banned

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    Could be wrong but, Legend has it that he might stay at a 200 year old Hacienda . Who knows?????
  3. Arte

    Arte Pata de Perro

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    it is required by law in al Mexico, but there are many towns where Transitos (traffic police) just let it go.
    Here in reynosa I have seen many transitos riding without helmet, and also I have never seen they pull over a biker (not even those without licence plate):dunno
  4. WakeDude

    WakeDude Been here awhile

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    The "top tips" I have gotten in regards to travel in Mexico have been...

    1. No travelling at night (Animals, Road hazards and Bandidos)
    2. Stay clear of large cities.
    3. Don't dress flashy. (Might be a problem as my Rev'It gear is somewhat flashy)
    4. Don't drink the water (beer tastes better anyways)
    5. Go to Mexico, it is a blast...

    Am I forgetting anything? I am planning a 3-month trip next year and the only country that is worrying me somewhat is Mexico, the rest of Central America seems tame in comparison. Also, I have been searching plenty but what is a good resource for paper maps in regards to MX/Baja and Central America? Thanks.

    -Alex
  5. going south

    going south hero & Zero...

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    For main land Mexico: I like the Guia Rojo, you can get them on line in english or spanish some of the larger stores in Mexico have them also, for Baja go with the Baja Almanac... the bible.......
    The Guia Roja also covers Baja, but not to the extent the Almanac does...

    Have fun....
  6. jimmex

    jimmex Guero con moto

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    C.A. way more dangerous than Mexico for the regular guy.
  7. tricepilot

    tricepilot El Gran Payaso

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    That's what I was thinking.

    Plus disagree with the "stay away from big cities" part.
  8. PirateJohn

    PirateJohn Banned

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    Point 1: Agreed.

    Point 2: I might disagree with some of the guys here because many like to go to small towns but I personally enjoy nightclubs, industry, good food, and so forth. So there are some cities that I really enjoy: Monterrey, Reynosa, Mazatlan, etc. I also like the tourist area of Tijuana, tacky as it may be to some.

    I think that most of us would say to be wary (or avoid completely) Juarez right now.

    I personally would avoid New York City on a bike but the more that I hear about the DF (Mexico City) the more tempted I am to ride there sometime.

    Anyway, my $.02 worth.

    Point 3: Go ahead and wear your normal riding clothes; you can't hide the fact that you are a gringo moto tourist. But leave your Rolex and gold chains at home.

    Point 4: The water in many Mexican cities is no worse than the water in many small south Texas towns; no one drinks that crap either. It's 2011 and the Mexican water stories are greatly overrated these days but I'd avoid drinking the tap water just the same.

    Point 5: Bingo! :clap
  9. Bato

    Bato Been here awhile

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    It should be ok now the cuota I was there in December and they were cleaning it up already read and enjoyed your reports seems you have friends there ...My sister leaves there .

    John Wayne used to stay at EL HUZACHE
  10. Pedro Navaja

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    I like El Morillo. It's on the south side of the town. It used to be a hacienda. Some of the old buildings are still there, the chapel, etc. Very nice. Not expensive. I see they have redone their website. http://www.hotelsaltillo.com/

    As you know there are many abandoned haciendas in Mexico. Ghost towns, not tourist attractions. They just sit out there rotting away. Makes for good adventure riding. Very good book on the hacienda and encomienda system in Mexico is http://www.amazon.com/Society-Colon...6536/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1317776542&sr=8-1 You can get a copy at the local library if they have inter-library loan. I've been doing a lot of personal research on that topic and also religious art. The Saltillo cathedral has one of the finest collections of religious art in the world. Much of the religious art of Mexico disappeared during the 1910 revolution, and more again during La Cristiada war.
  11. tricepilot

    tricepilot El Gran Payaso

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    ^ Just snagged that book off of Amazon thanks Mike
  12. tricepilot

    tricepilot El Gran Payaso

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  13. devil8dirt

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    Be very careful filming with helmet cam in Copper Canyon. Don't take pictures of anyone. Personally know of two riders beaten up. Use common sense.
  14. WakeDude

    WakeDude Been here awhile

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    Noted.

    Will look for both, thank you.

    I might be a regular guy, but how so?
  15. WakeDude

    WakeDude Been here awhile

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    Point 2: Noted

    Point 3: I'm a moto tourist but definitely not a gringo. :D

    Point 4: Noted

    Thank you.
  16. SkizzMan

    SkizzMan There, that's it

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    Thanks Mike!

    Gonna check out El Morillo on the return leg next month.

    Also ordered the book.
  17. Bato

    Bato Been here awhile

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    I stayed in this hacienda for a week during vw convention back in the early 80's when hadn't be industrialized and had no tv's or wifi's impresive

    REVIEWS
  18. MikeMike

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    It is actually "Guia Roji". Yes, they have red on the cover but it is Roji and not Rojo or Roja or RoRoRoYourBoat.

    Here is there website.
    http://www.guiaroji.com.mx/

    They are not the best and I have yet to find a map that truly shows what is on the ground. Roji is littered with errors especially when it comes to what is paved and what isn't, not to mention putting on roads that are not there and forgetting ones that are. Your best bet is to use a combination of a couple of sources and solicit local rider knowledge or at least talk to a taxi driver (you will find them everywhere, even 50 miles down a dirt road network, if there are people there are taxis and when you start to see taxis it is a sign of civilization) or talk to a Pemex attendant because they live in the area.

    You will find the conversation fun, they will give you up to date info and likely a tip or two about maybe a nice little waterfall or lookout spot or something that you would normally miss all together. You won't really know what is there unless you put your wheels towards it and actually ride the area.
  19. kantuckid

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    And all that(like school choice/bike riding/ medical care ad infintum) , if it were to come true, would result in something less than the BS artist(I wonder if they all listen to tapes of their BS in retirement?) that is the base human factor in all politicians-Mexican or elsewhere?:rofl:lol3:rofl:lol3:rofl:lol3:rofl:lol3:rofl
  20. PirateJohn

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    My pleasure and I hope that you have a great time!

    My flippant comment about being a gringo in Mexico is that unless you really, really know the culture and know the language that you cannot pass as Mexican if you have a US-Spanish or Cuban-Spanish dialect. And then little things like US shoes and other clothing give most of us away.

    For someone like myself I tell people not to even bother trying to blend in.

    I will say this, that with the recent troubles I have adjusted a few things:

    - I used to wear a TAG Heuer watch when in Mexico. It's Swiss Army now.

    - I tend to stay away from military-look pants and shirts. A few years ago I would have worn 5.11 pants with cargo pockets; now I tend towards lighter colored pants (nylon North Face pants are comfy if not particularly attractive).

    - Hawaiian shirts used to be a bit of a trademark of mine; I've slightly gotten away from those but they sure scream out "tourist, and not a cartel member." But just the same lighter-colored stuff seems to be preferable, both for comfort in the heat and also because it doesn't look military.

    - I am pretty old school and I avoid wearing shorts unless I go somewhere that is full of gringo tourists. Arte and some of the other guys may laugh at this but once upon a time shorts on adults were considered pretty tacky in Mexico. Probably much more accepted again.

    With all this said and done I wouldn't get too tense about what to wear and how to appear in Mexico. Wear your normal riding clothes.

    And have fun! :clap