Is Mexico Safe?

Discussion in 'Americas' started by Arte, Feb 1, 2010.

  1. kantuckid

    kantuckid Long timer

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    In all honesty and on a serious note , I have had some interesting conversations with many Mexicans over all the same hot button issues that entertain the concerns of gringos,i.e., illegals getting benefits,committing crimes in USA while here,gaining citizenship & you name it and so on down the line. There is a thin line between world cultures when it comes to true common sense. I place cartel types & terrorists & those that wont/dont choose to work in another category. Complaining can be a great form of discussion as evidenced by many on ADVrider. I've ranted here when no one else in my woods home to tell it too(thanks for the soapbox!) & you can click me/you if too much to take!:D
  2. kantuckid

    kantuckid Long timer

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    OK, so to make a point I'll tell my side of the above. During the hot part of the Iraq thing & during my oldest son's 4 tours as a Marine combat (Cobra) pilot(and on of his brothers 2 tours) we watched the news banners at the bottom of the screen with a passion that can only be driven by concern for your own kid! Several times we had to endure the knowledge that a helo/Cobra was down without knowing IF it was our guy! Now, the Afgahan thing goes on much the same(our boys are not there) and you do not get that same coverage.Unless a local son is killed or a general has a comment, this has become 2nd page or further news. The media apparently send you what they think will gain your attention & what sells adv $. This isn't a political commentary, simply saying I really don't understand why we are getting the Mexico issues thrown at us/not thrown at us as they are. Given 12 million illegals stated to be in USA I can see some connection but must be a complicated issue? When in traveling in Mexico the gore on the newspaper front pages is often seen at every intersection by paper sellers so it IS! what sells there for sure.While my experience has been peaceful there, I heard reports of gunfire in the same towns/locales as where I had stayed (on the same day in Saltillo) & elsewhere.
    To gain some knowledge of who shoots,stabs beats whom in the USA crime facts tell you it is often gangbangers or people that know each other that are involved & only in the rare "crazy type does random stuff" does it involve bystanders. The violonce in Mexico happens there , not here so only natural we don't get it all, just like I don't get NYC or LA news in my KY paper.
  3. WakeDude

    WakeDude Been here awhile

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    John,

    Thanks again for the tips. This trip is during the summer months next year so shorts will be a must, but to this day the cultures still frown upon men wearing shorts.

    I have been fortunate enough to work on a daily basis with people from almost every C.A., and S.A. country. I understand the dialect, and can match it, and I also can grow a mean Pancho Villa mustache! :D

    -Alex
  4. SR

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    Thanks Pedro. I just picked up a copy on Amazon too. A love the old Haciendas and the history that goes with them. It is amazing how many old haciendas there are around rural Mexico. Some have been restored but there must be hundreds of them that are just crumbling ruins. Definitely makes for good adventure riding/exploring.

    I found some writings on-line from a professor who seems to be an expert on pre-revolution rural life and politics in rural Mexico. His specialty ares is eastern Durango It's fun to learn about how these places used to be and see how they are now.
    https://www.msu.edu/~walkerd/proindex.htm

    I know of at least a half a dozen old haciendas around here. I keep Google Earth/GPS file of the locations of these places. I am happy to pass to anyone interested.

    SR
  5. Pedro Navaja

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    I have a supplementary paper on the subject. If you want it, PM me your e-mail and I will send you the .pdf file.

    These are architectural treasures. The government needs to catalogue these and try to preserve the ruins. Some of these old haciendas are being restored to B&B's, but sometimes that restoration ruins the architectural treasure itself. I mean would anybody restore The Coliseum in Rome to the point where we could play/watch futbol in it?
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  7. Pedro Navaja

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    Check your AOL account. It should be there.
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    This is a pretty eclectic bunch. In the same thread we have discussed architectural treasures, politics, attractive Latin women, and firearms. Can't beat that. :lol3
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    tricepilot El Gran Payaso

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  11. _cy_

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    what is legal in Mexico in terms of self defense tools?
  12. tricepilot

    tricepilot El Gran Payaso

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    Well, nothing that rhymes with "firearms"

    Like world travel anywhere, or visiting the "other side of the tracks" where you're from, your best "tool" is....wait....guess now.....common sense.

    Seriously, the only moto traveler I know of in Mexico, C.A. or S.A. to employ a "tool" is Max (Bananaman), who used pepper spray in a parking garage. OK well my bad, Glen (Striking Viking) used a key to draw blood. So there's that.

    Your best tool is your brain. In Mexico or anywhere else on this planet.

    Relax.
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    And discerning as well. I was wondering if anybody would take the :topes troll bait on page 322. A big pat on the back to all the regulars for not taking it. :D
  14. _cy_

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    thanks... already assumed no firearms anywhere but in the good ole USA. what I really meant tools like.. pepper spray, knives, stun gun? what type of knives are allowed?
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    I'll try to phrase this best I can. If you're thinking you need to prepare for Mexico with this mindset, maybe now isn't the best time to be traveling for you. Seriously, and I don't mean this as an insult, if you go "all armed up" to your satisfaction, whatever that is, you'll be so tense you might have well stayed home in the first place.
  16. SkizzMan

    SkizzMan There, that's it

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    A big +1 for that advice.

    I don't take anything down there that I can't walk away from if someone really wants it. Being targeted for violent crime is so unlikely, as is the chance of successfully defending yourself against those who do such things, that you really should concentrate on avoidance vs. defense. Bananaman was returning alone to his bike in a parking garage (at night, IIRC). You might avoid that scenario.

    NB: in cease you don't know the story, Glen used the key on himself to cause a nose bleed as part of a ruse to deceive his captors in Colombia.
  17. _cy_

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    please don't blow this out of proportion... all I was try to do is find out what is legal to carry in Mexico.

    nothing wrong with being prepared. this includes avoiding all dangerous areas and activities. especially at night.
  18. SkizzMan

    SkizzMan There, that's it

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    It might have been the "stun gun" question that sent it that way. Maybe. :lol3

    Some riders report carrying large sheathed knives (over 4") when also carrying camping equipment and are not bothered about it. I only carry a pocket lock blade.

    Hope that helps.
  19. Bato

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    It depends who you are and how you move the theory of legality is on the book, you don't want to confront a judge there. and if you get got with a tiny thin little join by the military you will lead the battalion to the crops. before they arrest you My guns in Mexico are on the safe box caring one, is asking to get shot people will smell it on you
  20. _cy_

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    again... should have clarified.. would not carry a firearm into mexico... just trying to find out what's legal?