Is Mexico Safe?

Discussion in 'Americas' started by Arte, Feb 1, 2010.

  1. PirateJohn

    PirateJohn Banned

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    I wonder if this happened on the main road between Los Mochis and el Fuerte, or if it happened on one of the minor roads

    When I rode to el Fuerte in 1999 there had been some discussion that there were bandits on the little road between Alamos and el Fuerte and that it wasn't safe to travel after dark.

    With that said I would't hesitate to go to el Fuerte - in fact, getting back there some day for a return trip is on my bucket list.


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  2. Pedro Navaja

    Pedro Navaja Long timer

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    LMAO at the ChangoGS comments! :D

    C'mon guys he's just yanking yer chains and trying to keep Gringos out of Mexico so that he can have it all for himself. Chango has been all over Mexico, and most of Central and South America. He even does stuff like prospecting in the mountains down there for gold...alone.
  3. chiwo

    chiwo Adventurer

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    and like my fellow compadres yell with some shots of tequila

    ¡ Y VIVA MEXICO CAB#$)ES!!!

    Will be visiting Cuatro Cienegas this Sunday, and I will post you some nice pictures..



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  4. Animo

    Animo Been n00b awhile

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    +1 on that.

    I wonder why he's only been posting the ugly of Mexico which accounts to maybe 2%, the rest is the country's beauty and it's people.

    Come on chango, what gives? Or what happened the past 6 months?
  5. acejones

    acejones Long timer

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    Well, Supa12Pilot,

    After spending 32 years in the pharmaceutical/medical business, I've got some pretty good ideas about peoples behavior.
  6. tricepilot

    tricepilot El Gran Payaso

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    This statement could not be more incorrect.

    The premise (at least the premise I and many here adhere to) is that ALL travel has risks.

    Mexico motorcycle travel has its own unique risks. Read once again my post #8478. I feel it is my responsibility to post balanced views on the safety of Mexico travel, and I love Mexico at least as much if not more than any Mexico traveler on this board.

    It is the personal task of each potential traveler to assess those risks and to decide for himself or herself if those risks are manageable. There are many individual skill sets and experience sets and personality sets that change this variable for each person.

    What is totally incorrect is for one individual to put a stamp on the safety or lack thereof, or degrees in between, of Mexico travel and declare "this is the way it is" for others to follow.

    If I've said it before here once I've said it 1,000 times, each persons decision is right for them and them only. The only fail is to paint a risk picture for others with one's own broad brush, or stick a label on this place or that place as totally risk free or completely dangerous, or assign any variable degree of danger in between, and expect others to agree with you.

    Yes. I get it. You don't think Mexico is a place you would want to travel right now. You are an experienced traveler, but Mexico isn't right for you right now. Other feel that they can manage the risk of travel there. Who is right? Who is wrong?

    We all know life isn't risk free. We all know some sit on their couches, lock their doors and watch TV, while others jump out of planes, go scuba diving, soaring, sailing around the world, or climbing Everest. The key for all of us is to remember that each person is living their life in the manner that is right for them. We may not like their choice, but that choice needs to be respected. And there is no fail in moving between the extremes as life goes by. There are many changing factors and variables.

    You may decide to return to Mexico this fall, and in the same month, I may decide to stop going. Who is right? Who is wrong? Do you see the picture now?

    Mexico travel has risk. Many data points say that there are tangibles and intangibles that point to various risk factors increasing. Some look at those emerging data points and decide to belay their plans to travel there, if not cancel them altogether. That is fine, that is great. That is the right decision for them. Others factor in these data points and adjust their approach to Mexico travel.

    Those that continue to travel to Mexico and who state here that the risk can be managed are again, making a decision that is right for them, and them only. They post here their travels, their stories, and their views.

    You need to respect that.
  7. acejones

    acejones Long timer

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    He can't withdraw. If he does he'll have no other audience to read his rediculous drivel.
  8. MikeS

    MikeS For sure I'm game for it

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    This conversation and the post from the BMWMOA magazine are helpful. I've been south twice now, and did have a small incident with a local tough, coming in to town just after sunset (violating a no-no to ride at night). I was with some Mexican riders, and it was managed well. Things happen. Things happen in the States and in the far north too.

    As trice said, it comes to personal aversion to risk, and especially risk in a country that is new (to me). To put the risk in perspective, we all ride motorcycles, a dangerous mode of transportation. Riding on some of the big city freeways on a bike has to be more dangerous statistically than the chance encounter with a Mexican thug. There are "rules" to follow, and this thread helps with that a lot.

    One item I learned last trip is a Mexican assumption towards motorcyclists is "they are too poor to afford a car." Depending on how flashy your bike is, we from the States are "rich gringos who cannot afford to travel in a car."
  9. subcomm

    subcomm adrenaline junkie

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    EXACTLY!
    Also I would like to know the following
    Why he makes posts on this thread and then quickly deletes them.
    Why does he list his location as Nancy, France. This guy lives in SW San Antonio. Kinda stupid because plenty of people on this forum know where he lives. If I am going to pass myself off as living in another country I can assure you it would not be France, home of the frogs and the worlds biggest wimps.
    Although he has spent a lot of time in Mexico, he has ridden motorcycles very, very little there. As long as I have known him He has not had a road worthy bike. Hard to tour Mexico on a 1937 BMW or a Ural with a burned up wiring harness.

    Chango, give it up dude.... All you are doing now is embarrassing yourself and it is really sad and pathetic to watch...
  10. Starbuck21

    Starbuck21 Manly scooterist!

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    Going to Mexico this coming week for 5 days or so. I will find out first-hand how safe it is :rofl.
    Heading to Puerto Penasco (Rocky Point), never had any problems there.
  11. SkizzMan

    SkizzMan There, that's it

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    Prolly safe now that Spring Break is over and the kids are back at ASU.
  12. SkizzMan

    SkizzMan There, that's it

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    Actually, it was Gravity Bandits who set up a road block on a steep section of polvo and I "decided" it was best to stop.
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  13. Bato

    Bato Been here awhile

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  14. tricepilot

    tricepilot El Gran Payaso

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    :rofl

    del polvo vienes y al polvo volverás

    :freaky
  15. Howard.epps

    Howard.epps n00b

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    Wow! This figures, just another pretender, wanna be, blow hard. When not on Adv he is probably on dating websites telling women he looks lie a model and is independently wealthy from his computer in his Mommy's basement
  16. MikeMike

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    SR, good to see they didn't get away with stealing your sense of style. You get a high mark for "degree of difficulty". LOL!:clap
  17. pilot815

    pilot815 Long timer

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    Some good discussion here. I really like mikemike's words concerning living in Mexico and having the option to ride Mexico or stay shut up in the house. It's very real for some, and I have been in that situation first hand. I am on the fence with travel in Mexico. My father lives in Mexico and comes and goes with no trouble. He travels frequently in central Mexico and has never had any issues just great experiences. I have never had any issues either in the time I lived in Mexico. Just wonderful experiences. My wife isn't comfortable with my traveling there and so I have stopped going for the time. She wouldn't put her foot down and say no, but she isn't comfortable with the thought, and I am fine finding other places to ride for now.

    What it comes down to is just determining for yourself what is right and wrong. What is not right is posting stupid links that don't help anybody make judgement on their own situation concerning travel in Mexico.
  18. Flagixxer

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    Oh for the good days when all you had to do was give the head guy at the border $5, the second guy $3 and the old guy watching your ride $1 !! The only thing you had to worry about was a drunk Cop wanting beer money and of course running over a cow at night !!

    If you have fear of traveling Mexico, do not go, fear will make you do foolish things.
  19. Bato

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  20. Flagixxer

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