Is Mexico Safe?

Discussion in 'Americas' started by Arte, Feb 1, 2010.

  1. rockymountainoyster

    rockymountainoyster Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2010
    Oddometer:
    983
    Location:
    Back in the San Juan Mountains
    San Luis Rio Colorado. Is that the one south of Yuma? I was thinking of crossing there but have no info on it. Where do you go from there? Large scale maps look like you have to go East or West on 2 to get anywhere else.
  2. tricepilot

    tricepilot El Gran Payaso

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2006
    Oddometer:
    9,133
    Location:
    San Antonio
    25 miles south of Yuma, yes.
  3. kobukan

    kobukan almost gnarly

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2009
    Oddometer:
    1,712
    Location:
    Saco ME
    No first-hand experience, but I recall a couple reports over the past year from riders saying they had an easy crossing at San Luis Rio Colorado. They caught my attention because I was considering crossing there on my way to Baja from AZ, but I went through Mexicali instead since I was headed further west toward Canyon de Guadalupe anyway.
  4. pax maac

    pax maac Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2008
    Oddometer:
    459
    Location:
    Toluca, Mexico (near Mexico City)
    Hey guys,

    I haven't been keeping up with this thread, so this info may already be out there-

    As of yesterday (maybe even longer) the tolls on the Toluca-Mexico City highway are now half price for motorcycles.

    I know a lot of you prefer to avoid the cuotas, but they do come in handy, especially if you're like me and often need to cover large distances quickly.
  5. tricepilot

    tricepilot El Gran Payaso

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2006
    Oddometer:
    9,133
    Location:
    San Antonio
    I guess not. But welcome back.
  6. Habibi Rocks

    Habibi Rocks Banned

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2012
    Oddometer:
    58
    Location:
    Burbank Ca.
    Sounds like a plan !!!!!

    [​IMG]
  7. BobLoblaw

    BobLoblaw Comfortably Numb

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2006
    Oddometer:
    1,507
    Depends which route you are taking in Baja. I'm planning on SON 40 from the San Luis crossing to MEX 5 and south to San Felipe/Alfonsinas/Coco's corner then MEX 1.

    If you are planning to head south via MEX 3 to Ensenada then the Tecate crossing may make more sense.

    I'm trailering my bike from the Pacific North Wet and will be leaving my car in Yuma.
  8. jimmex

    jimmex Guero con moto

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2003
    Oddometer:
    2,917
    Location:
    West Texas
    Its easy and safe; everything all together with safe parking.
  9. BobLoblaw

    BobLoblaw Comfortably Numb

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2006
    Oddometer:
    1,507

    :thumb thanks
  10. dcstrom

    dcstrom Long timer

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2006
    Oddometer:
    1,557
    Location:
    On the road to South America
    Thanks! I found one - the Sahara, seems OK, $33 and about a 10 minute walk to the main drag. I checked out the Cortez but too pricey for me.

    When are you coming down?
  11. dcstrom

    dcstrom Long timer

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2006
    Oddometer:
    1,557
    Location:
    On the road to South America
    So I crossed the border at Tecate today. It was super easy, just rode straight through the US side and immediately was in town. Where the hell is Mexican immigration? I saw nothing that looked like an immigration office immediately after crossing. I'd read somewhere that at some crossings the Mexican offices are some way inside the border, so I figured that must be the case here too, so hit the road to Ensenada. Turns out it was TOO easy, I met a Swiss couple here on an Africa Twin, who had found the immigration office in Tecate. They said the only way they found it was a soldier was standing out the front. I was expecting a gate or something, so I must have blown straight past.

    I'm on an Australian passport, so I do need a visa, as well as the TVIP - can anyone confirm that it's ok to get both of these at the immigration office in Ensenada? I don't want them to get pissed off with me for being in the country without a visa!

    Alternatively I go back to Tecate and pretend I just arrived...

    Thanks
  12. norschweger

    norschweger Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Apr 21, 2012
    Oddometer:
    242
    Location:
    Germany
    Hi folks!
    After some months of "detours" : ) all over BC, Yukon and Alaska I am now in Colorado and thinking about the further way towards South America. I would love to read all this thread about Mexico but I have to sleep sometimes : ).
    My questions to you experienced fellows:
    -which direction should I aim at, considering border crossing and places to go to?
    -the TVIP: my bike is registred in Canada, using the adress of friends, but I am German. I do have the Canadian insurance papers with my name and the mentioned Canadian adress, but no title (maybe it is at my friends`place by now- I will ask). Could that be a problem?
    -this insurance expires in december. Does that play any role considering that I want to get a Mexican one anyway?
    any suggestions which one to take?

    I am looking forward to any helpful answers!
    Thanks a lot!
    Toby
  13. airdale7

    airdale7 Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2012
    Oddometer:
    567
    Location:
    Tahlequah, Oklahoma
    Consider the Central or Pacific coast routes. Probably central is more scenic with Copper Canyon. Best to have title and Mexico insurance in hand when you cross.
    Have a safe ride.
  14. airdale7

    airdale7 Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2012
    Oddometer:
    567
    Location:
    Tahlequah, Oklahoma
    Anyone else having trouble with photobucket? I cant get to the download and the recent activity has a wheel that just keeps spinning.
  15. Sjoerd Bakker

    Sjoerd Bakker Long timer

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2008
    Oddometer:
    1,430
    Synthetic oil is available all over Mexico in the modern autoparts stores
    like Autozone et al, at Soriana, Walmart and many of the small Tiendas de
    Autopartes . Just look around if you must have it. Not sold at barrel gas
    suppliers

    Norschweger, you may not have a "title" if the bike is registered in Canada . "TITLE" is a USA peculiarity.
    The Canadian provincial vehicle registries (Ontario is my example) only issue an "ownership and registration" which is your proof that you have the rights to the bike and are allowed to use it legally without worries about being charged with having a stolen vehicle . This is all I have ever required to travel through Mexico and Central America
    Nowhere was I ever asked to show Canadian insurance papers, they are worthless in Mexico and beyond and have no use for proving ownership.
    The IMPORTANT thing is to have the same name on your Passport, your Drivers License , the motorcycle ownership and registration and your CREDIT CARD.
    Your Canadian insurance is valid in the USA up to the date it expires. If the cops stop you after that date in the USA you may have a problem in states where liability insurance is compulsory .
    You must buy liability for MEXICO before you cross the border.It is sold at many points in the US and it comes in a variety of types.
    You can buy LIABILITY for a short trip of known time duration which lists yourname and the motorcycle VIN
    This gets pricy for long durations.
    You can buy "Drivers License " (DL) insurance for public liability which lists your name and drivers license number only and gives you the choice of taking a car or a bike into Mexico under the same policy.You can buy this for a FULL YEAR at a price which is less than a month for the VIN dedicated insurance.
    There are varous sources for the DL insurance some cost less than others but some also will not cover motorcycles ,so investigate.

    I just renewed my own DL policy for an entire year yesterday after being re-assured that it does cover bikes. For the grand sum of $163.60 I have coverage of $100 000 for liability, $50 000 for legal assistance and Travel Assistance in case of accident and mechanical breakdown where the vehicle is inoperable.My source is MexUS Insurance Services ,Inc easily found on the web.
    In a single year I make a car trip and one or two motorcycle trips ,sometimes on two different bikes , and I am covered all the time by the single DL policy
    If you are planning on spending more than 34 days traversing and enjoying Mexico this DL package is all you need and a money saver.
    Of course fire theft and catastrophic loss of the bike are not included in this price. Most insurance companies shy away from this comprehensive insurance for bikes , or if offered they will ask a fortune. You can live with the risk if you ride sensibly and keep an eye on the bike, park in secure areas etc etc.
  16. rockymountainoyster

    rockymountainoyster Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2010
    Oddometer:
    983
    Location:
    Back in the San Juan Mountains
    Don't know about the Visa but you are good with no TVIP as long as you are in Baja. I have heard from other RR's that you can get the TVIP in La Paz before you board the ferry for the mainland. Prolly otta get visa taken care of pretty soon.
  17. rockymountainoyster

    rockymountainoyster Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2010
    Oddometer:
    983
    Location:
    Back in the San Juan Mountains
    Sjoerd :clap Priceless info on insurance.

    Norschweger: radioman reported that he had to show the original title to his bike when he went into, Bolivia I think. If you are planning to head farther south it looks like you need to have some kind of original ownership certificate with all of the provisos mentioned by Sjoerd. I have been told that, for US Americans, we need to show only the original vehicle registration. I am not clear about why these countries want you to have the original title. If I wanted to try to sell my vehicle in CA or SA I would have to have the title. If they don't want me to try to sell the vehicle why do they require me to carry the document I need to do so? Just wondering.
  18. norschweger

    norschweger Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Apr 21, 2012
    Oddometer:
    242
    Location:
    Germany
    WOW! Thanks a lot for this detailed info! I really appreciate that a lot!
    Do you have a scandinavian background,btw? (your name)
    Sounds all good!


    Norschweger, you may not have a "title" if the bike is registered in Canada . "TITLE" is a USA peculiarity.
    The Canadian provincial vehicle registries (Ontario is my example) only issue an "ownership and registration" which is your proof that you have the rights to the bike and are allowed to use it legally without worries about being charged with having a stolen vehicle . This is all I have ever required to travel through Mexico and Central America
    Nowhere was I ever asked to show Canadian insurance papers, they are worthless in Mexico and beyond and have no use for proving ownership.
    The IMPORTANT thing is to have the same name on your Passport, your Drivers License , the motorcycle ownership and registration and your CREDIT CARD.
    Your Canadian insurance is valid in the USA up to the date it expires. If the cops stop you after that date in the USA you may have a problem in states where liability insurance is compulsory .
    You must buy liability for MEXICO before you cross the border.It is sold at many points in the US and it comes in a variety of types.
    You can buy LIABILITY for a short trip of known time duration which lists yourname and the motorcycle VIN
    This gets pricy for long durations.
    You can buy "Drivers License " (DL) insurance for public liability which lists your name and drivers license number only and gives you the choice of taking a car or a bike into Mexico under the same policy.You can buy this for a FULL YEAR at a price which is less than a month for the VIN dedicated insurance.
    There are varous sources for the DL insurance some cost less than others but some also will not cover motorcycles ,so investigate.

    I just renewed my own DL policy for an entire year yesterday after being re-assured that it does cover bikes. For the grand sum of $163.60 I have coverage of $100 000 for liability, $50 000 for legal assistance and Travel Assistance in case of accident and mechanical breakdown where the vehicle is inoperable.My source is MexUS Insurance Services ,Inc easily found on the web.
    In a single year I make a car trip and one or two motorcycle trips ,sometimes on two different bikes , and I am covered all the time by the single DL policy
    If you are planning on spending more than 34 days traversing and enjoying Mexico this DL package is all you need and a money saver.
    Of course fire theft and catastrophic loss of the bike are not included in this price. Most insurance companies shy away from this comprehensive insurance for bikes , or if offered they will ask a fortune. You can live with the risk if you ride sensibly and keep an eye on the bike, park in secure areas etc etc.[/QUOTE]
  19. norschweger

    norschweger Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Apr 21, 2012
    Oddometer:
    242
    Location:
    Germany
  20. operaflute

    operaflute Starving Artist

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2012
    Oddometer:
    139
    Location:
    Tucson, AZ
    I hate the idea of having my title anywhere near my vehicle. Should it get into someone else's hands, it sure would make it easy for someone to sign my vehicle over to himself!