Is Mexico Safe?

Discussion in 'Americas' started by Arte, Feb 1, 2010.

  1. MikeMike

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  2. Bato

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    Looks like the flag will fly at half pol for good here too Egale Pass
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    I think that you may be right! :clap:clap:clap
  5. PirateJohn

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    Either "lost as hell" or "an idiot who lost his passport." :lol3
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    Has anyone here had an dental work or SCHEDULED medical work done in Mexico. (I am kind of afraid to mention one of our colleague's recent unscheduled emergency visits as being a bad example :lol3)

    Anyway, there is a thread running about dental work in Mexico and I got jumped by a couple of dentists/MDs who implied that everyone that went to Mexico got crappy dental work. You opinions and comments would probably be welcomed.

    I think that if you search for "dentist" you will find the thread. MikeMike was there. :deal
  7. acejones

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  8. PirateJohn

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    According to Borderland Beat:

    "On December 12, four women left Ciudad Cuauhtemoc, Chihuahua, to go to a funeral in Guachochi. Their last communication with their families was from Creel at around 4:00 p.m. After that, they disappeared. They were driving a white 2012 VW Jetta.

    Authorities searched for them using vehicles and a light aircraft. Their bodies were found yesterday, December 15, in a ranch, La Casita, near the town of Samachique, in Guachochi municipality. They had been tortured and murdered, and their car taken.

    It turns out that locals had reported a "narco reten", a road block operated by drug trafficking gangs, at about kilometer marker 35 on the road to Guachochi. A group of armed men was stopping vehicles at gunpoint, robbing the drivers and passengers and assaulting them verbally and physically. The lucky ones were let go."



    I am having trouble plotting this online, but if they called from Creel at 4PM weren't they deep in the mountains well after sundown? And other people had been stopped but let go?

    Once again, there is something else to the story here. Maybe someone resisted, maybe not. But there seems to be several unwise things here.
  9. Craneguy

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    By the way folks, MM arranged for my bike to get new Pirelli Scorpions this weekend. He then proceeded to busy himself "fixing" my lowered forks and rear suspension settings. The difference to my bike was so incredible I still can't believe it. I've been jonesing for a Multistrada but I think I'll save my money. The man is a genius and if he suggests you modify anything on your bike... Listen!
  10. AndyT

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    I can't figure out how anyone would know if they resisted being robbed. The victims are all dead, and there is no mention of having captured any of the perpetrators, who are the only other ones who could know.

    Regardless, it doesn't speak well for safety in the Sierra.
  11. AndyT

    AndyT Been here awhile

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    I really, really, don't want to start a big argument here, but I can't think of any time I have ever heard of bandits blocking a major road and robbing multiple vehicles in the USA. I like to travel in Mexico as much as anyone, and have done so recently, but facts are facts.
  12. acejones

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    No argument at all. People get car jacked in the US everyday; sometimes its peaceful, sometimes not. It happens in broad daylight in every American city, with all kinds of witnesses.
  13. mundobravo

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    a on going roadblock by bandits ? got a link for that ?
  14. mundobravo

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    this was not a car jacking .. just saying
  15. miguelito

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    Mantequilla? :rofl:rofl
  16. acejones

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    Same outcome
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    In conjunction with a trip last year to Big Bend, the lovely Mrs. Trip and I made a day trip from Presidio down to Peguis Canyon, despite all the warnings of mayhem.
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    But seeing as we made it there and back again without our heads getting cut off, we're thinking this year we'd like to go a little further, and spend about 7 days south of the border, probably in mid to late January. We'd cross again in Presidio, although that doesn't need to be set in stone. We're riding a pair of TW200's though. Mrs Trip doesn't mind dirt or off the beaten track, but she sure doesn't like fast traffic. (she can handle stop and go, in town kind of stuff) The Tdubs will cruise all day at 60mph...Mrs Trip, on the other hand, tops out about 45 or so... and the more traffic she gets on her tail...the slower she wants to ride!
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    So what I'm wondering is where should we go? I have ordered a Guia Roji, but so far just have an ITMB map, and it doesn't show alot of options in that area. As far as gas goes, we have about a 150 to 170 mile range and I don't see any indications of gas stations or accommodations if we head off on the small roads towards Coahuila. If we head to Chihuahua, do we end up on interstate speed roads, or at least ones where there's too much traffic cruising too fast? What we experienced of MX16 was fine, but I imagine as you get closer to the big city, that's going to change. And from there, if we head for the Creel area...is it too cold in the mountains in January? We're from New England, and don't really mind the temps...but ice and snow would be a drag.
    So maybe we should head for Ciudad Camargo instead? What the heck is down there? Can we get from there to Creel via a better route? I didn't see much of a straight connection...I guess that's blocked by the mountains? Can you cross near Presa La Boquilla (Lago Toronto)? And are there other destinations within reach of equal or greater interest? We like natural and botanical wonders, history, etc. Don't care about nightlife or ziplines. Mainly just enjoy the (for us) very different landscapes and the wide open spaces.
    My other concern, of course, is areas deemed less than safe. We've traveled, we're cool and low key...just don't want to wander into someplace that's a problem while we're unaware. I have to take good care of her...or our kids (and grandkids) will kill me!
    And finally, a specific question: when we crossed at Ojinaga, the border guards just chatted with us about the bikes, and said we should check out Santa Elena canyon from the Mexican side...and nothing about TVIP or tourist cards. But for a longer stay was there a place in Ojinaga to do the paper work? I didn't see it, they didn't direct us there, but it needs to be done before heading beyond Peguis canyon or so, correct? And how long will it take? If we leave Presidio in the morning, can we make Chihuahua or Camargo by late afternoon at our turtle's pace?
    Any suggestions and advice is greatly appreciated! Thanks!
  18. tricepilot

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    Crossing at Presidio/Ojinaga you will get tourist cards and TVIPs right there in OJ. The downrange checkpoint is not too far past Peguis Canyon.

    Start with reading this ride report from twtex.com authored by Milton Otto

    This is a great tale of riding in the back country on the Mexican side of the Rio Bravo, across from the BBNP area.

    Then you can turn the switch in your mind towards paved riding from OJ to a destination of choice. Taking either of the libre or cuota to Chihuahua is no big deal on your machines although you will need to be mindful of Pemex locations on either route.

    Finally, cap off the night by reading this fine tale by Road Dust

    Hopefully, all this will be at least an appetizer or appeteezer for off road/on road and Chihuahua and Cd. Camargo curiosities.

    Finally, a question for you: where is a pic of the Mrs. without her helmet on? :freaky
  19. SkizzMan

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  20. SkizzMan

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