Is Mexico Safe?

Discussion in 'Americas' started by Arte, Feb 1, 2010.

  1. SkizzMan

    SkizzMan There, that's it

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    I'm with you Andy. I don't equate this event to the crime we see in the US. Sure we have carjackings. Was once targeted myself in my own home town. But this strikes me as something different. Does sound like they broke a major Mexico travel rule by driving at night and in a somewhat remote area at that. Very sad outcome.

    The shooting incident near El Fuerte last spring was also something not typical of US crime. There are some risks that need to be vigilantly managed when traveling Mexico that we are less likely to encounter in the US.
  2. miguelito

    miguelito Been here awhile

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    TVIP -What trice said. This crossing isn't too busy, so you should be through quickly. The last time I crossed there, the hardest part was finding the Banjercito which was in the town, not at the border. It can get cold and snow around Creel, so check the weather before you set out. If you head to Camargo, I think it's about 180 miles between gas stations, so fill up, and possibly bring a fuel container. You should easily make it that far in a day + border crossing. The ride there is pretty but also flat and straight, and with little traffic. It's not too far to H. de Parral from Camargo, where the riding is much more interesting. There has been some cartel violence in and around Parral, and particularly to the west of town where the riding gets to be more interesting, so heads-up if you ride that way. If you keep going south from Camargo, you're in for a lot more flat/straight roads for quite a ways.
  3. MikeMike

    MikeMike Long timer

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    Rhode trip, do not trust the Roji farther than you can throw it, especially for accuracy of back roads.

    Craneguy, now I need to ride it. Too bad I didnt take you up on the offer.
    My ride report for the comfortable chair in the Mystery Rider's new bar is my next priority! LOL!
  4. MysteryRider

    MysteryRider Laughing at danger

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    And a big thanks to CraneGuy for suggesting the name of the bar.:clap (Seal Club)

    C´mon MikeMike! We need some photos of the AdvRider Statue.

    And, don´t forget to tell us how you had to use tools off of a Hardley to fix yur bike.:ear (BTW: Was that a metric phillips screwdriver?):D
  5. rockymountainoyster

    rockymountainoyster Been here awhile

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    Anyone know if the BiciMapas for the Garmin is more detailed and accurate for the backroads than the Guia Roji? GR seems pretty good for general orientation and major roads... there seems to be a lot of detail in BiciMapas but I haven't challenged it yet. This morning I will rely on it to get me out of Lerdo and on my way to Zacatecas. I used the taxi driver trick to get me to the hotel late yesterday afternoon. Was it trice who posted that idea? It is a great one. I was tired and wandering around in a strange place... the taxi got me to the zocalo pronto... diez pesos, worth every centavo!
  6. MikeMike

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    I borrowed that little torx to make sure you were making a meaningful contribution to the surgical procedure I was about to perform on the redheaded German on a quiet backstreet in a Mexican mountain town.
    The real Houdini act was how I was able to use the Jedi mind trick power of suggestion "Hey, dont you have a pack of Cohibas and do you need a light?" to divert your attention while I palmed the torx key and used my Leatherman needlenose to terrify those two little fittings into abandoning their steely grip on the failed piece of Fatherland engineering.
    At least that is how it would read if George Lucas and David Grisham wrote repair manuals!
    There were no other witnesses, Craneguy had wandered off to get a cold drink. Smart man.

    The best thing was I didnt hear any banjos playing while it all went down.

    What happens in the coastal Sierra Madre, stays in the coastal Sierra Madre.
  7. PirateJohn

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    I stumbled into a motorcycle rally in Tuxpan and spent some I scheduled time there. Beautiful town with a great waterfront along the river.

    That was kinda what I was telling him, that if he got to Tampico he should head south a bit just to check it out and see what he thought. It gets awfully pretty down there awfully fast.
  8. MikeMike

    MikeMike Long timer

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    Until you get to Poza Rica! LOL!
  9. tricepilot

    tricepilot El Gran Payaso

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    Nice use of the Taxi Trick :freaky

    To the aspect of who coined the idea: I don't think anybody really invented it and its probably been used since taxis have been around.

    But I wrote about it here in March of '09: The Taxi Trick as a piece of advice to newer travelers to Mexico.

    Yes, Bicimapas is getting better every year, with more and more detail. And we talk about mapping etc. here in the IMS thread as we do the other classic "cyclical" or "boomerang" topics like insurance and topes.

    YMMV, but to me, in any size town or certainly cities, I'd rather defer to the taxi driver than my GPS to take me to the hotel and, on the flip side, out to my departure highway. There are a number of reasons for this.

    Probably the chief reason is that with a GPS/Bicimapas, you have at best excellent situational awareness but what you don't have is an inexpensive local guide, hired on the spot, to be your personal concierge for the truly fastest route, least traffic, hotel recommendations, things to see, or whatever else you ask him for. Plus, and this doesn't get talked about enough - you can enjoy the scenery, look around, concentrate on the senses firing at you all at once as you explore yet another fantastic Mexico destination. Who wants to be studying a GPS while keeping eyes on city traffic? And why do you want to shoulder that worry, when you should be smiling your ass off and really enjoying the destination?

    If you really want to have fun, get comfortable with hiring taxi guides on the fly, which means engaging their guide service while stopped at a red light or even while in moving traffic. Just shout something like this while moving along:

    "Hotel Posada de Amor - veinte pesos! Vamanos!"

    :rofl :rofl
  10. MikeMike

    MikeMike Long timer

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    Just what sort of guide are you looking for?

    $20 pesos?
    Now some wealthy US hooker is going to come on this thread and berate you like the US dentists tried with Pirata Juan.
  11. 2mstone

    2mstone Been here awhile

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    As I wander through this thread it seems like there are a lot of riders going to Mexico this time of year. Would anyone have an idea of how many go in the winter?
    And more specifically into Baja?
    And even more specifically into Baja riding a V-Strom? (not that I'm prejudiced or anything... :evil )

    If the last one applies to you please contact me.
  12. tricepilot

    tricepilot El Gran Payaso

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    Bienvenido amigito, you will probably be interested in this LINK
  13. PirateJohn

    PirateJohn Banned

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    Too funny! :lol3
  14. PirateJohn

    PirateJohn Banned

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    You can be in the border zones for 36 hours without a tourist card, and you don't need a TVIP either. I assume that these border folks were the Mexican authorities because usually the US authorities are clueless about Mexican procedures.

    Glad to see some folks riding over there. Exploring that area is on my bucket list. :clap
  15. tricepilot

    tricepilot El Gran Payaso

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    Long time overdue to stop adding to this bucket list you keep mentioning all the time, and transition to a checked-off list.
  16. Turkeycreek

    Turkeycreek Gringo Viejo

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    We see lots of riders here in Sonora. Northern Mexico in winter can be cold at times with morning lows in the mid to 30s. Som of the border areas are about 5,000 ft and it snows from time to time at those altitudes. La Rumorosa in Baja gets snow and it can be pretty cold in the mountains. We got snowed on in March 2010 on Mex5 between La Trinidad and Ensenada up high.

    Take a sleeping bag even if you are staying in hotels. Many hotels have no heaters (ours does :D) and many have only thin blankets. You will be happy to have it if it cools down. Pack your heated vest and winter gloves and hope you never use them. Once you get closer to Baja Califonia Sur, things will warm up.

    Just get on the bike and come down.
  17. PirateJohn

    PirateJohn Banned

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    I agree, but I have to replace some of the things that my ex-girlfriend stole from me. But I can assure everyone that I am planning to get back to riding ASAP. Hopefully beginning later this year. :deal
  18. tricepilot

    tricepilot El Gran Payaso

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    Cheers on that, because "bucket list", "planning" and "hopefully" are fodder for a younger man's vocabulary. :deal

    Guys our age can't afford to keep them in our lexicon.

    Even if you still feel like you're 25, time has a way of eclipsing the best of intentions. :grim
  19. tricepilot

    tricepilot El Gran Payaso

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    And if you check your IPad or with your phalanx of personal assistants, they will tell you there are only 2 weeks left in "this year".

    Just so you know.
  20. PirateJohn

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    Point taken. I am already on the 2013 oilfield schedule. :lol3

    I hate to post too much publicly because those things have a way of coming back and haunting a person, especially since i am sure that ED, Evangelical Deborah or Evil Deborah depending on your perspective, reads this thread pretty closely. But I had asked some folks about doing a BBQ and Blues ride from Austin to New Orleans this Spring. Recently my girlfriend started talking about riding down to Texas from Wisconsin in 2 days in order to go riding into Mexico, and she has been talking about doing that in March. :eek1

    So we shall see. I have been sitting at the same oil well for 3.5 weeks and if i can put in another 2 months or so without committing a felony then I am golden. Let's hope that the work holds because this is traditionally the slack time of the season. :eek1

    The last time that I went riding it wasn't pretty, and you have to remember that I rode coast to coast in less than 50 hours back in 2002, so this being off the bike and getting (slightly) older is wearing on me. :wink:

    Anyway ... I hear ya Trice. I have a bucket list that is going into several volumes right now, with Texas riding just being Volume 1. Got a couple of deals that I am working on and the only thing between them, me, and replacing my RV and tools and plenty of bike stuff is cubic money, but I am getting there fast. :deal