Is Mexico Safe?

Discussion in 'Americas' started by Arte, Feb 1, 2010.

  1. Craneguy

    Craneguy British Hooligan

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    This is interesting. I have a theory that carjacking is on the rise because modern cars are basically too hard to hotwire.

    The easiest way to steal a car these days is to take it at gunpoint along with its chipped key.

    Also I agree comparing rural highway robbery with inner-city violence isn't particularly useful.

    For the purposes of this thread it's far better to point out that the BMW shooting incident was a one-off, and could have been a simple (and still unusual) robbery if the victims had followed the SOP of having a throw-away wallet. I don't blame them for running. I did the same thing in a car 12 years ago between Oaxaca and PE during a hold-up attempt and got lucky too. I know better now.

    For what we ADVers are looking for, Mexico is indeed safe. (except for the Topecabra, but that's a whole other thread)
  2. tricepilot

    tricepilot El Gran Payaso

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    I missed it. Where does it say city violence?
  3. kobukan

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    Car-jackings in the US are a city problem. How is comparing that to country road robbery helpful?
  4. tricepilot

    tricepilot El Gran Payaso

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    Only cities? Where are you sourcing that bit from? Your assumptions?
  5. kobukan

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    If the the BMW shooting incident was a "one-off" that's good to know. But haven't there been other incidents of armed roadside robbery outside the cities? And it's really concerning that the perpetrators apparently shot at them for trying to escape, indicating that they were willing to kill them.
  6. kobukan

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    Personal experience only. You compared car-jacking in the US to armed robbery on country roads in Mexico - do you assume they are the same? The two do not seem the same to me. I could be wrong.
  7. tricepilot

    tricepilot El Gran Payaso

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    LINK A


    From that link:

    "Carjacking isn't just a problem in large cities - it happens in suburbs, small towns, and rural areas."
  8. tricepilot

    tricepilot El Gran Payaso

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    From that link:

    "Authorities say the men assaulted and carjacked a couple McGee lured to a rural area and drove off with the couple's three young children."
  9. kobukan

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    Actually, I don't think we were ever really talking about car-jackings.
  10. tricepilot

    tricepilot El Gran Payaso

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    Well, I don't have any experience with the 50,000+ carjackings in the US each year either, so that's why I don't claim they only happen in cities.
  11. tricepilot

    tricepilot El Gran Payaso

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    I'd run away from the topic too :freaky
  12. kobukan

    kobukan almost gnarly

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    I give up. My point has been missed completely and the conversation has gone off in a completely different direction. I appreciate all the info. I'll still be riding in Mexico.
  13. MikeMike

    MikeMike Long timer

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    GREAT!
    Once you ride here you will understand that for guys who rack up big miles over the years in Mexico and those of us that live here and ride here everyday, we are more worried about other dangers than punks with guns.
    We are worried about:
    sand in a corner from mountain rains and run off
    barbed wire
    water and dirt in fuel
    heat
    humidity
    premium gas or not at the Pemex
    flat tires at speed
    topes that are unmarked especially in the wet
    really stoned or wired double trailer truckers
    torrential rains
    hurricanes
    losing a piece of luggage
    hangovers
    weight gain from good fresh food and breakfast steaks with chiles and onions
    camera batteries
    landslides
    rock falls
    washouts
    protests that close highways
    political rallies that close town squares
    etc...
  14. airdale7

    airdale7 Been here awhile

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  15. MikeMike

    MikeMike Long timer

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    Craneguy and I rode through that in Xalapa. LOL!
  16. mark883

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    You forgot:

    Even though you've traveled Mexico with no intestinal distress so far, you know that somewhere out there, there is a piece of lettuce with your name on it. :puke1 (but the food is worth the risk)

    and, a somewhat related theme:

    lack of toilet seat in places
  17. MikeMike

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    Isn't there a "Are Toilet Seats Safe" thread somewhere?

    Travler's intestinal upset is no longer the threat it once was. I can remember when the only bottled water for sale in convenience stores was either a half a liter of Evian (naive spelled backwards by the way) or a 4 liter jug of Bonafont.
    And they were priced about the same!:eek1
  18. mark883

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    More than once, I've brushed my teeth in the sink down there and thought, "gee maybe I shouldn't have..."

    I've even trusted the water carafe in a few hotel rooms. Maybe I shouldn't have... no ill effects.

    Bottled water is definitely a boon for gringo travelers down there. No excuse not to stay well hydrated. The greenies may not be impressed, but if my gut is happy, I'm happy.

    Every time I use the bathrooms on the Indiana Turnpike, I think: "Gee I've been to nicer places in Mexico." There are spotless places in Mexico- even on their toll roads.
  19. mark883

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    Don't take it personal. You're sure welcome around here.

    You've got your solo to Mexico ticket punched, that's more than probably a lot of people on adv can say. You've been to CC and Baja, which I haven't visited, but would love to see.

    Ride on, and enjoy the trip- that's what's important.
  20. rockymountainoyster

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