Is Mexico Safe?

Discussion in 'Americas' started by Arte, Feb 1, 2010.

  1. farrell caesar

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    It was good. Beautiful view of the sunset from top of the building. We did eat at the Chez Elena and it was good. We also ate at the Hacienda with a great symphony playing. I did not like paying $350 pesos for a meal though. A little fancy for my tastes.
  2. MikeMike

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    That's 5 steak breakfasts in Cerro Gordo. With a healthy tip.
  3. rockymountainoyster

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    I banged out 358 miles today with my bum knee. You cynics and skeptics can say what you will but the curandero and massage therapist I saw last night put me well on the way to full recovery, way more efficaciously that the best allopathic practices. Each has its values. The big difference is that traditional practitioners recognize the value of allopathic modalities and feel no threat. The allopaths are terrified of the holistic practitioners. But I digress.

    The ride down from San Cristobal is a lot of fun. There are a couple of boring stretches but you can make really good time through them on the two lane autopistas. This is where a big GS really shines, even loaded down like my poor pig. I get a real kick out of how the toll takers and gasolineros are very curious about where I am from, where I am going and where I have been. For some strange reason they seem to like us down here and are curious about us. The young soldiers are a bit more standoffish but you can see them ogling the bike when their NCO or OIC are not looking.

    Warning: There is not one damn hotel between where the 185D Cuota meets the Mex 200 west of Salina Cruz. Get to that intersection and enjoy the hell out of that road before darkness falls. The first hotel you will see is a series of really expensive ones up off the road until you get to two reasonable ones... 600 pesos/night. I picked the Hotel Plaza Tangolunda and am very happy with the choice. A spacious room with king bed that I would not mind sharing with Salma or some other needful lady! Snake and all!

    Tomorrow I head up to Zipolite and Thursday to Oaxaca and then on to Jimmex' suggested route through the Sierra to Zihuatanejo. It is great to be back on the bike!

    Mexican TV ain't all that bad. especially when you mute the volume and make up your own dialogue in esperanto or Klingon.
  4. rockymountainoyster

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  5. SkizzMan

    SkizzMan There, that's it

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    You're gonna enjoy Jimmy's route. Good to see you're back on the bike. Wish I was down there with you.

    For those who say curanderos make you feel better only because you expected to feel better I ask: does sex feel good only because you expected it to?

    There, that should get something going.
  6. rockymountainoyster

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    Someone suggested wearing cycling shorts as a solution to the hard seats on some of those dirt bikes. What a fine idea? Trice, of course, will not need them, his Depends will give him more than adequate padding:lol3
  7. Craneguy

    Craneguy British Hooligan

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    How the hell should i know...I'm married!

    What is this sex thing of which you speak???
  8. tricepilot

    tricepilot El Gran Payaso

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  9. mark883

    mark883 and the mysterians

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    Do you think there's a Mexican version of Honey BooBoo?

    I too agree, that when you don't know what they're saying on Mexican TV, does it really matter?
  10. MikeMike

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  11. Sjoerd Bakker

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    Hey Rocky..
    QUOTE. rockymountainoyster
    Warning: There is not one damn hotel between where the 185D Cuota meets the Mex 200 west of Salina Cruz. Get to that intersection and enjoy the hell out of that road before darkness falls. The first hotel you will see is a series of really expensive ones up off the road until you get to two reasonable ones... 600 pesos/night. I picked the Hotel Plaza Tangolunda ....QUOTE

    You are SO WRONG ! There is indeed a hotel to be found in that sector of Mex 200 and it is in the center of the small town Santiago Astata - it was there four weeks ago too!
    You only needed to turn south off the highway and go up the hill and see it across from the church.
    Santiago Astata is a small mainly Indian town about midway between Salina
    Cruz and the Bahias de Huatulco resort area.
    Also just a few meters east of the turn-off to Tangolunda and the succession of bahias
    there is the tiny hotel operated by the family which also has the convenience store and
    drugstore.
    Either of these choices will cost considerably less than the 600 peso of the Tangolunda digs you wound up at ( sounds you may have stayed at the former re-badged Club Med?) and either would give a comfortable sleep , preferable to struggling along into the dark of night and missing out on the fun ofMex 200.
    In downtown La Crucecita there are a whole bunch of good small hotels at reasonabler
    Prices than the big waterfront resorts . Of course if you need to soak your oysters in the Pacific ......��

    Re: your repeated references to" allopathic medicine" .
    I felt a suspicion on first reading that term and did some research to discover it to be a bit of bafflegab favoured by one camp .
    Medical knowledge really ought not have any limits placed on it but those of reason , logic and scientific proof . Many folk remedies have contained the seed for knowledge that spawned useful treatments, naturally occurring compounds can provide the basis or leads for new synthetic medications. At the same time though many old folk remedies are nothing other than old ( or new ) myths and quackery. Simply because an idea dates from antiquity or some isolated population group or has developed a set of followers and employs its own obfuscatory jargon ,
    that is no indication of its value as being superior to recent developments from scientific research.People used to die from ailments which are now easily treatable or preventable . For instance vaccinations are able to protect against many formerly deadly sicknesses yet there are those who refuse to accept them out of religious and superstitious considerations.
    The placebo effect is at work in whichever medicine from whatever time period ,
    there is no disease or ailment of which the progress cannot be quickly and totally
    arrested by death. Medicine is only an attempt to postpone that outcome.
  12. tricepilot

    tricepilot El Gran Payaso

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  13. jimmex

    jimmex Guero con moto

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    "obfuscatory jargon"...good stuff.
  14. SkizzMan

    SkizzMan There, that's it

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  16. rockymountainoyster

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    Right on all counts Sjoerd, I like your reasoned approach to such things. Modern science and scientific medicine and method have been somewhat constricted by the thinking of Descartes and we as a species have outgrown it.

    There is indeed a small hotel in Santiago Astata but I had this vision of finding a small hotel close to the beach. No, I am not at the former club med, am at Hotel Plaza Tangolunda next door to similarly priced Casa Don Porfirio just at the beginning of Tangolunda zona commercial.

    Once again I wish I had discovered your hotel and travel guide before I left home. Next time.

    I did not miss any of the fun of Ruta 200 east of her. Fortunately I got to ride it all before it got dark. The dark portion of the ride was throught the zona hoteles in Bahia Tangolundo, this whole area is part of the highly commercialize developments of Huatulco.

    I use the term allopathic as opposed to homeopathic or naturopathic because I was married to an allopathic physican for 25 years and this is the term that she used in discussions of alternative methods. She once believed in alternative medicine but is no such a part of the "machine" that she just hands out advice and pills.
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  18. Sjoerd Bakker

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    Shit happens. If it doesn't kill you
    deal with, get over it and carry on.
    Avoid shit if you see it heading for a fan.
    SB wisdom. :D

    Written during lunch at Tim's , sorry no free
    refills. Drats ! ��
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  20. MikeMike

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    Well, we all can't be skinny rabbit arsed Suzuki riders, can we?

    So, are you heading over for Semana Santa or will I be "punished for not playing well with others" again?:freaky