Is Mexico Safe?

Discussion in 'Americas' started by Arte, Feb 1, 2010.

  1. Kiko

    Kiko Long timer

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    It looks like the photo of the 7 young men murdered in Uruapan last Saturday morning and then propped up on chairs at a glorieta on Lazaro Cardenas. There were ice picks stuck in their chests with warnings from a narco group. I was staying at a hotel on the plaza a few blocks away when the bodies were found.
  2. PirateJohn

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    Once again demonstrating what we always say - stay the hell away from narcos and dope and you'll be fine.


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  3. Craneguy

    Craneguy British Hooligan

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    It seems our work here is done. Apparently (surprisingly) American tourism is up despite the reports of violence.

    That makes it official. If you stay away from Mexico due to the perceived threat, you need to go and buy yourself a set of big boy (or girl) underwear. Your courageous fellow citizens will be sending you postcards from Mazatlán full of questions about the size of your gentleman's parts.


    Mexican Drug Murders May Never Be Bad Enough to Deter Tourists

    http://www.theatlanticwire.com/global/2013/03/mexican-drug-murders-vs-tourism/63660/
  4. acejones

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    RMO, As previously stated this has been all over international news sources. Really ?, you didn't know about it ? The victims were reported to be window washers and farm workers. This was in Uruapan earlier this week.
    http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/27/world/americas/mexico-violence/index.html?hpt=hp_t5

    There's the link to CNN
  5. MikeMike

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    When you've seen more than 30 corpses dumped in front of a shopping mall less than a kilometer from your home, that picture rates a yawn. You are sitting in another country trying to tell me something about where I live and where I ride.

    From your picture one can safely assume that Mexico is a dangerous place to be a drug cartel criminal.

    If you want to see a real mess, take a good hard look at a country that is fighting a war on drugs while some of its own member states are trying to legalize drugs.

    Those guys in the chairs died trying to keep the shelves stocked for the country that is the world's largest consumer of illegal drugs.
  6. AdventurePoser

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    Hi David,

    I'd cross at Tecate. IMHO it is faster and simpler than TJ. Remember to lane split to the front of the line when crossing in Tecate.

    Enjoy,

    Steve
  7. PirateJohn

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    Which most of us would agree is usually code for lookouts and growers.

    Being a narco is a hard life. I am very sympathetic to the kids that have few other career prospects. But for someone lurking and reading this thread a riding tourist would have to be very, VERY unlucky to get caught up with these people unless you happened to be doing a dope buy at the same time a hit goes down.

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  8. bingo43

    bingo43 ¡Que Viva!

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    Thanks for the tip. I'm going to start a ride report soon and I'm thinking about calling it "Por Lo Menos Dos". At least two. Based on some things Trice said...I'd like to take my son through Mexico, but really take some time to see some stuff. Like Real de Catorce en caballo. But I thought of spending at least two days in an area. The last time I went down we made it all the way to belize and guatemala. A blast and Guatemala was my favorite part...but this time I'd like to spend at least two days in each place. If a place is good enough to go to...why not drop the paniers and strap on a backpack and just go explore for an extra day. So I've been planing some first days and then the extra days. One is Real de Catorce. Another is Leon. My brother's inlaws live there. If we drop the paniers...the next day we explore all the roads around Dolores Hidalgo, San Miguel de Allende and Guanajuato. Then on towards the south...wherever that might lead us.
  9. FakeName

    FakeName Wile E Coyote SuperGenius

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    Did this two weeks ago at Tecate. Total crossing time, from line entry to freedom?

    About 12-15 minutes. Super easy, all friendly, including the guys with the guns.
  10. MikeMike

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    If you haven't ridden the Veracruz/Puebla border, please allow me to introduce you sometime.
  11. Pedro Navaja

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    I think some are confusing the term chilango with the term fresa. Not the same thing, though sometimes they can be.
  12. stormdog

    stormdog Been here awhile

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    Last time I crossed you could not turn in aTVIP in Tecate. Has this changed in the last year?
    I turned mine in at Mexicali, then rode hwy 3 over to Tecate and crossed back into the US there.
  13. acejones

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    Tough job being a stock boy at the market.
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    oops. meant to link the article. I know, it is safe, not to worry.
    http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/27/world/americas/mexico-violence
  15. Bato

    Bato Been here awhile

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    What a coincidence I was there too, but didn't heard or see anything

    KIKO:
    I was told that the only reason you didn't end up like them .. Was, because they ran out of chairs

    LINK
  16. Arte

    Arte Pata de Perro

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    Next time we can go specifically to do the ride I've not been able to complete. Ride from Concha to Mazapil keep riding to get to Pico de Teyra, keep going along the state divisory line and get to Juan Aldama and from there ride to Sierra de Organos to camp overnight, next day visit my born place: Sombrerete and start the Archeological sites ride to end up in Zac.
  17. AdventurePoser

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    I've enjoyed following this thread since I plan on a lengthy time in Mexico beginning in October.

    Interesting enough, I had a conversation with a friend who holds dual citizenship in Mexico and The States. She has a very large family in MX and is very much afraid to go visit them, and because we are friends, is very concerned about my safety.

    Her biggest concern is being caught in some sort of crossfire between the bad guys and the so called good guys. She believes Mexico's structure is so decayed that there is really no place "safe," especially if one is in need of help.

    Different viewpoints from people of varying experience living or traveling in Mexico.

    Cheers,:freaky
    Steve
  18. PirateJohn

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    Notice that the article makes two major points: The new government is taking a different approach to getting the situation under control, and narco deaths declined in 2012 as compared to 2011.


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  19. Turkeycreek

    Turkeycreek Gringo Viejo

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    Our hotel is full for Semana Santa. All but 2 of our 10 rooms rented by Mexicans. No one is worried about violence or narcos; all just having a good time visiting family or just taking few days away from the city. The doors from the street to the courtyard stayed open until almost 11pm. There is no fear in this part of Sonora unless you are involved with the drug business.
  20. Craneguy

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    I just read an interesting blog article on the 25 countries that get the fewest tourists. When I clicked on the link I was half expecting to see Mexico there. Of course it had the usual suspects that are either in the middle of a war or just too hard to get to.

    The surprising thing for me was the top ten list at the end. France is #1, the USA is #2 and Mexico is #10! I think that says a lot when the list is 190-odd countries long.

    I think if we chain up the wandering livestock and rip out the topes we could be #6 in a couple of years! :D