Is Mexico Safe?

Discussion in 'Americas' started by Arte, Feb 1, 2010.

  1. PirateJohn

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    Might want to back that down a bit Amigo. Mark is a good guy and he was just kidding you.

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    You asked about the wisdom of riding a BMW and Mark answered well so I didn't say anything, but my experience has always been that even with my 13 year old and very dirty R11.5 that parking lot attendants and so forth will go out of their way to protect your bike. I have had Transitos give me the thumbs up and in one really weird case they gave me an escort to my hotel in Monterrey a few years back.

    So I wouldn't sweat it.

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  2. Pedro Navaja

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    Slow down amigo. Mark883 is a veterano in these here parts and is well thought of. A lot of us Mex riders here know each other in real life too. Much better to make amigos here than enemigos.

    Most of your questions have been answered, but as for the repeat border questions, the border is a fluid situation and rules change officially and unofficially, and things change at different crossing points. I've been all over Mexico (except for tourist resorts) by car, bike, bus, plane , and I still ask questions.

    I'll give you my slant on your questions in my next post.

    Saludos,

    Mike
  3. acejones

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    Regarding the wisdom of riding a BMW; Mexico is awash with gringos and nationals riding BMW's.
  4. MikeMike

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    Lens measuring contest?

    Reminds me of a great gag in Spanish about a Chinese cat burglar at the Los Pinos presidential palace in Mexico City and Peña Nieto's second wife.

    If the Mystery Rider is lurking, remind me to tell you the one about the patron with ganas for the maid, and the one about the 3 guys and the high class prostibulo.

    If you don't laugh, I'll buy you breakfast at the leña, same deal goes for Craneguy..though he usually has some better ones. But I'll go toe to toe with him with the patron con ganas joke!
  5. MikeMike

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    I swear the patron con ganas gag is funnier than my favorite Pepito and Sarita playing charades joke.
    And thst one was chingon.
  6. Gun Smoke

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    Thanks Mike I look forward to it. And you can expect a polite and respectful response from me for your polite and respectful answers. Thanks again.
  7. Pedro Navaja

    Pedro Navaja Long timer

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    My answers are in yellow.

  8. evilwerkz

    evilwerkz Time to ride....

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    GUNSMOKE : nice motorcycles get noticed, but that is all, bring your R1200gs and don´t worry about it

    Yesterday I went out for a quick spin with a friend from Taxco, 2 guys from Cuernavaca and 1 from el DF....

    we all agreed to meet and drive off from Cuernavaca at 9 am, so off to Laguna de Zempoala, return via Toluca and Ixtapan de la Sal and had lunch just outside of Buenavista de Cuellar....

    ridng style was kinda semi-fast to hectic sometimes....lotsa fun... one BMW R1200gs, a KTM 990 Supermoto, a 1200 Multiestrada and 2 Superduke 990 - a lotta looks from the Federales but no one bothered us at all, some people would aproach you and ask about the rides, it was a blast to say the least

    when we where having lunch, I told the guys about this extranjero I had met in ADVrider but had never met in person, who lived in cuernavaca and was from somewhere in Europe :D

    and my friend Raul from Cuernavaca replied, " does he drive a V-strom with a large British sticker on his motorcycle " :huh

    CRANEGUY : crazy driving extranjeros DO get noticed around here :rofl
  9. Bato

    Bato Been here awhile

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  10. mark883

    mark883 and the mysterians

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    Nothing in my post was meant as a slam against you. Just a little over the top, slightly sarcastic humor, which evidently didn't translate so well to your read of it. Maybe a bit too extreme for the first time interaction on the written internet. You have my apologies.

    The basic summary of my points is as follows: Go, have fun, try to blend in- even though you won't- no matter how hard you try. Be respectful of the local customs, and don't do anything stupid that would get you in trouble anywhere else. You are a guest in their house, they make the rules, and you will get much further down there when you realize that. I'm a firm believer you're a lot better packing light than bringing along the kitchen sink- even though I carry tools, a final drive bearing and seal with me. Each time I've gone on a long mototrip, my load has got lighter. Lots of good photos were taken with Leicas and little Roleis. Look what JDowns is doing with a $20 pawn shop special in his ride report.

    I don't know what your individual level of experience with Mexico is, but many of the inmates here can be very good resources with the points beyond how do I cross, what should I ride. This is a great place to ask, where should i go, and what should i see? I don't purport to be as well versed as some inmates in this thread, but I'd like to think I've got some ideas for the noob Mexitraveler that the more seasoned vets here may have long learned and turned to instinct.

    And again, I meant you no offense. Take it or leave it, I guarantee my info is worth the price charged (nothin!)
  11. evilwerkz

    evilwerkz Time to ride....

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    15000th dayum!!! that´s a lotta replys to this thread...

    Will let you know next time, this time the guys caught me off guard, called me the night before and just jumped on it

    Saludos
  12. Craneguy

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    First, congrats on the 15,000th post!

    I'm glad my sticker got noticed!

    Now, what were you doing riding my territory with letting me know??

    You know how us British feel about our empires!

    By the way, I prefer the term "spirited" to describe my riding. It only becomes crazy when I'm trying to keep up with MikeMike!
  13. Craneguy

    Craneguy British Hooligan

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    No problemo bud. I'm nursing a kidney stone at the moment, so I'm not straying far from home. It's also not advisable to ride with 200mg of Hydrocodone in your system. It's kinda hard to ride a straight line on that stuff!

    I'm heading out to the Middle East soon. Hopefully I'll be returning on a Multistrada. Then we'll see if we can take crazy, sorry, spirited, to a whole new level. :evil
  14. rockymountainoyster

    rockymountainoyster Been here awhile

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    There is nothing wrong with resorts. I like resorts. I live in a resort community and a large part of my small yearly income depends on the people who come to the resorts and book the Mountain Tours that I drive with the Outfitter I work for. I give them a good experience in the mountains and I bring them back home under sometimes sketchy circumstances. They are none the wiser because, so far, I have done my job well.

    I personally do not go to resorts. The resort experience and the organized tour experience are not things that I enjoy personally. I am what the travel industry calls "an independent traveler". The resort experience tends to give you the take on a place that the resort wants you to have. I get a far better experience talking to the resort staff at the mercado. That is a choice that I make. Resorts are often very good for the economies of the towns and areas where they are located. This is good on many levels for the people, and on other levels not so good. Resorts tend to be quite wasteful of precious resources: water, local food, landfill space, fuel and energy to name a few. Resorts here and in other parts of the Spanish speaking Americas tend to be driven by large pools of "disposable income" As upwardly mobile Mexican families have more disposable income they are seen more often at these resorts and I can almost guarantee that they are not paying what the gringo pays. Gringos are seen as cash cows who are not smart enough to know what value is. It is not done cynically or impolitely, it is just the way business is done in some places.

    I put my Rolex Submariner away years ago. I always wanted an "Oyster Perpetual" It is after all my surname. For what it cost to get the Rolex overhauled every couple of years I could buy three Casios. The current one I have had for eight years, no ten. It is solar powered and when I am in the USA portion of North America it updates to the Atomic Clock in Boulder, CO, USA. It is never wrong, the Rolex often was. It, like BMW's and Mercedes-Benzes, both of which I own, is a lot of bullshit hype by ad executives who get paid more than watchmakers or car builders and designers. There may be some things in the world that are flawless but German and Swiss Iron and Gears are not on the list.

    $2500/month to rent an apartment in Mexico is around $1065 pesos/day, depending on the float. In many of the more interesting towns you can get a room at the very best place in town for that.

    There were years when I had money and stayed in resorts: The Hana Ranch, pre-Starwood, Kona Village, The Mauna Kea Hotel, The Jackson Lake Lodge, Costa Carayes, The Bali Hai, The Peninsula in Hong Kong, The Taj Mahal in Mumbai, The Gritti Palace, The Ritz in Paris... just to name a few. I can't do that any more. I am on a fixed income and have to make the dollars stretch so the time can too. There may be followers of this thread who can afford to stay wherever they want. That is great. Their experience of Mexico will be quite different from mine but if you are 125 miles from nowhere and have to use the hopper you will have to use it without a toilet seat no matter where you stayed last night or hope you will stay tonight.:evil. I am sure that I would like to stay at Las Hadas and imagine that I caught a glimpse of Bo Derek or her evil twin but that is not the hand I am holding currently. I think most nice places would look at scruffy me on my motorcycle and say sorry... we are full... even if I had a handful of 500 peso notes. That is OK too.

    The information provided on this thread is a free service provided at some expense of time by those who provide it and who have earned their stripes by actually traveling the highways and byways of Mexico. This information is in constant flux because things change very rapidly down here... even the maps... there is a huge amount of public works construction going on here all of the time and stuff changes really quickly.

    It is totally inappropriate to attack anyone here... get cranky sometimes... yes... it happens... people waste a lot of time and space asking questions that have been gone over in nauseating detail... people quote posts without removing the photographs resulting in endless pages of the same photograph of Salma Hayak's left boob... or some damn mountain in the middle of nowhere. Everyone has their own way of doing things, their own style of riding and their own sense of adventure. No need to get all riled up. It is just a website.
  15. Bato

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  17. SkizzMan

    SkizzMan There, that's it

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    "My other end" could be taken a couple of very different ways. For your sake I hope it was the good way. :wink:
  18. SkizzMan

    SkizzMan There, that's it

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  19. Gun Smoke

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  20. Gun Smoke

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    Hey I really appreciate that and sorry I was over the top as well. Friends now I hope?