Is Mexico Safe?

Discussion in 'Americas' started by Arte, Feb 1, 2010.

  1. PirateJohn

    PirateJohn Banned

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    Y'know Trice ... this is about the second time that you and Schizz (who isn't involved this time) started belly aching because I hadn't ridden into the parts of Mexico that appealed to you guys. Now ... Schizz has a bee up his ass because he doesn't like my liberal politics so he has dogged me on several threads. You ... eh ... I am not sure what your problem is. But one thing came out of that last conversation ...

    I DON'T REALLY GIVE A RAT'S ASS THAT SOME PSEUDO SNOB THINKS THAT THEIR INSIGHTS INTO MEXICO ARE BETTER THAN MINE OR ANYONE ELSE'S. :deal

    Ultimately, I am always going to go where I want to, when I want to, and on my terms.

    I enjoy the commentaries about the mountains but have never really understood why friends of mine moved from coastal California to Colorado, for instance.

    Maybe I am weird (or entertaining) but some of my fondest memories are of hanging with the Eastern Euro, Belgian, and US sailors in Tampico. Throw in a Canadian or three and we all had great times.

    I also had a great time riding over to the Playa Bagdad a number of times. Once with Arte and Andres, several times by myself. That's only 10 miles from the border but a tremendous history that has largely been lost to people on both sides of the border (last port available to the Confederacy - I'll bet that you didn't know that). :clap

    Anyway, lighten up. I don't know what your problem is and I frankly don't care. I was learning until you butted in.
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  3. tricepilot

    tricepilot El Gran Payaso

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    Not a question of better. More a question of how recent. You don't ride Mexico anymore.

    Moreover, you hide the recency of experience angle and take stale stories and attempt to make leverage.

    Nice try on the pseudo snob angle.

    Would love to see you go downrange on a motorcycle and get a fresh perspective.
  4. PirateJohn

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    Since who appointed you Fairy Godmother? :lol3

    There is an excellent 80's artist named Howard Jones who did an album called Dream Into Action. So many of my friends want to retire en Mexico. Hell, many of them just want to retire and ride. I personally have mixed emotions. But I don't have problems with "I'm thinking about, I'm kicking around" in order to see what sticks and what doesn't.

    So don't be a sour old pharte. Think of putting dreams into action.:clap

    I guess the point is that if you don't have anything to offer then why bitch and whine? You should be better than that.

    And although you bellyache it's pretty obvious that I have crossed the border more over the last several years than almost anyone else other than one person (who shall remain nameless) who has a child in school and crosses daily (which I think is fine, incidentally).

    You may have lost perspective, but for many new folks reading this thread crossing the border and basic stuff are pretty important, especially for someone who has never done it.

    I might add, while on the subject, that in my humble opinion more people would benefit from a day of easy acclimation around the border than being told to ride hundreds of miles to get away. You guys do a disservice to fellow riders when you scare them away from benign situations. :deal
  5. tricepilot

    tricepilot El Gran Payaso

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    Oh, the irony :deal
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    tricepilot El Gran Payaso

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  7. rockymountainoyster

    rockymountainoyster Been here awhile

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    Thanks for the update Miguelito. jimmex had suggested a routing through there to Zihua rather than the boring hot coastal route. My leg was killing me, I was running out of time, and I opted to take the coast route. It was just easier. When I was having a beer with the former owner of Berlin in SMA (sorry his name slips my mind, nice guy from Berlin) at his hotel near Zipolite/Puerto Angel (He is partners with George) I mentioned to him that I was thinking of going through Altamirano and taking the 134 down to Zihua. He said: "oh no, don't do that, that place is very dangerous, we had to go down there to pick up my friend's body. Please ask George at the next club meeting if he knows anything about this. When I was having my great posole lunch at Any in Zihua the waiter said that the mezcal was from a small distillery in Altamirano and was made for the house... it was excellent. The waiter also told me that Altamirano was a bit lawless and potentially a little dangerous. It is amazing what you can learn when you can converse in Spanish! He did not however warn me not to go there...just to be cautious. Any more pix? It looks great. I will make it a point to go there next time, especially if I can find someone to ride with... or should I say catch up with.
  8. tricepilot

    tricepilot El Gran Payaso

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    Schizzman, like Jimmex, rides the tread off his bike in Mexico

    Like all over

    Like this year
  9. PirateJohn

    PirateJohn Banned

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    Leverage? On a motorcycle forum? :huh



    When you have the depth of experience that I have riding throughout the USA, doing Iron Butt events, writing travel books and articles, then get back to me.

    For that matter I am thinking about all the things that I have done career-wise and personally, when I was an athlete, and the things that interest me and which I have contrasted to the way things are done en Mexico, then as I talk to you I have to feel sorry for you because I feel that you and your "downrange" comments indicate a very shallow mind.

    Do you know who Eddy Merckx is and the significance of Mexico City in 1972? Probably not something that you can relate to. But perhaps a reason why I will eventually get around to riding to the DF.
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    Like I did for over a decade. And I may do again if I want to.

    I have nothing against Schizz riding. I do have irritation over you telling me how to do it. :deal
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    tricepilot El Gran Payaso

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    Thanks!

    The most perfect response I could have hoped for! :deal :clap :freaky
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    I have been in too many political discussions to take you seriously. :lol3

    Anyway, whatever inferiority complex that you had that welled up needs to be brought under control for your own peace of mind. I don't - and I am sure no one else does either - care how many rugrats you have had to put through school.

    The subject was Mexican electricity and you butted in. :deal :lol3
  13. tricepilot

    tricepilot El Gran Payaso

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    You can't buy better scripts than this! :deal :freaky
  14. tricepilot

    tricepilot El Gran Payaso

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    John G, let's go to Mexico

    I'll meet you at any border crossing you wish and take you to Parras d.l. Fuente.

    Leaving Texas June 19 or 18

    All the tequila you can slam

    You may have stood me up in McAllen, but I still luv ya, bro (sort of) :lol3
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    Why don't you guys take this pissing match someplace else ? BTW, that was rhetorical.
  16. tricepilot

    tricepilot El Gran Payaso

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    I'll accept that!

    :clap :freaky :clap
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    Now I can go back to my glass of wine. :1drink
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    Pirate take him up on the offer and quit being a pendejo. But ditch the tequila idea. There is a brandy you can buy at the San Lorenzo winery (Casa Madero). They make it right there and it comes from the barrel you see below. On the tour I took of the winery I was the only one being given the tour. The guide and I talked a lot about Mexican history. Educated mofo and he let me drink as much as I wanted. Only in Mexico will the tour guide try and get you drunk :1drink Bad mistake on my part as I was on a bicycle and had to pedal back to town. I took a nap on a park bench to sleep it off and some dog woke me up later by barking at me as I was napping.

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    Have fun in Parras! That's me below.

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  19. tricepilot

    tricepilot El Gran Payaso

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    The preceding debate was worth it for Mike's tip right there!

    A glass from that cask coming up....:deal :freaky
  20. tricepilot

    tricepilot El Gran Payaso

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    Pedro Navaja: :bow

    I've read, and re-read, your stories of your travels in and around Parras

    So close and yet such a distant world to most U.S. moto travelers

    Excellent historical inspiration, and the reason I'm going there