Is my XR400 doomed??

Discussion in 'Australia' started by Donjulio85, May 31, 2018.

  1. Mouse

    Mouse I'm only smelly

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    My 2c, it's been a mustering bike, wouldn't spend a cent on it that I didn't absolutely have to. Pass.
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  2. Pezz_gs

    Pezz_gs Cant ride for crap

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    Morning James :wave

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  3. Donjulio85

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    Thanks for you opinion.
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  4. Donjulio85

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    Cheers Pezz. Yep, I will get some quotes on the job and go from there. If I do go for it, I will do a build report.
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  5. redkat85

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    I'm late to the party here, but I still have my XR4 (in parts - separate issue!!) and bought it new in 2004...
    I decided to (what I thought was going to be) pre-emptively deal with the swingarm bolt after a few years (too many as it turned out) and in trying to get that out I observed some rust in the lower frame.
    It was pretty readily repaired and reinforced by the bike shop who had "done heaps" - it's a very common issue on XR4's, apparently.

    Without addressing any other condition issues or risks, that frame rust in and of itself isn't a big deal, and the repair could tidy up the sidestand mount.
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  6. Donjulio85

    Donjulio85 Adventurer

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    Thanks Redkat, appreciate the 1st hand experience. Where are you based out of interest? I am Brisbane based, was the shop somewhere near here? It would be good to get it done by someone who has done heaps with an eye for the roadie. Also roughly what did you pay for that kind of work? What kind of prep did you do? Cheers
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  7. BLU_FZ1

    BLU_FZ1 Been here awhile

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    I would do the repairs with the engine in the frame, you only need to have the earth lead as close as possible to the weld area

    As far as cost goes, it would be a carton. Try finding someone with TIG machine, less heat and it looks tidier

    But MIG will do
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  8. crash n bern

    crash n bern Long timer

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    I was in your shoes once. I bought a $1200 TT600 piece of shit. But it was a very fast piece of shit. The seller who had another one that he built to run on methanol couldn’t explain why this POS bike was so fast. And that was his only selling point. “She perculates mate”.
    I had driven 4 hours to see this bike. My 351XY Ute had blown a piston on the way. It was World environment day and I was billowing smoke and getting passed and abused by hippies in Kombies.
    I was so pissed off when I saw the bike I bought it because I didn’t want the venture to be in vain.
    The bike had been used on the beach, the rims were de laminating, the whole bike was a piece of shit. But a very fast piece of shit.
    So I spent money on fixing the rear shock because it was dangerous, new bearings and basics. $800 later I still had a $1200 piece of shit. But I stopped there, I had my fun with it and sold it for $1200 advertised it as rough, ready and very fast. The blokes that bought it reckoned it was the fastest TT600 they’d ever ridden.

    So you need to evaluate how much the bike needs, and where the spending stops. Will it come up to scratch or will it always be a pig. How nice do you want it to be? Or do you just want a cheapie to flog around on and move on. If you don’t want to go ahead I wouldn’t wreck it. I would sell it for what you paid for it. It’s worth $1200 all day long even with the shot frame, and you will sell it for $1200.
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  9. Mouse

    Mouse I'm only smelly

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    More words than me but same message there cnb...
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  10. BLU_FZ1

    BLU_FZ1 Been here awhile

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    DJ85, if it were i ??????? i would look at what a 96-98 XR4 is going for and make that my budget. I would contact a TAFE in your area and see if someone (an appy) would do the work for you as part of a practical assessment. I think its worth saving and for a smallish outlay it could be a good bike. If you were in metro WA i would do the work for you over a few beers, your company and a carton as payment. But dont just let any clown with a welder get hold of it, check there work out b4 hand
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  11. Donjulio85

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    Legend, love it mate and where I was starting to rest on the matter. Thats a really good call. I will do just that. I just got off the phone with a bloke whos coming over to quote for a can of rum. He reckons he can do the whole lot for maybe just shy of a hunjy. I will get pics of prior work and share. I have to say that everyone has taken the time to provide their considerred advice and it is much appreciated. Great forum.
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  12. Mouse

    Mouse I'm only smelly

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    Stick around, it only gets much much better!
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    Well @Donjulio85 ... it look's like you've scored yourself an XR4 basket case project to bring back up to scratch, you've inherited a eunich-horn (lentil bean) as a cousin (it's good to have friends in low places they reckon), got Frankenstien's doctor in your corner (Pezz) for imoral support (there's none better at it than the scrapheap master :D), some great practical tips and experienced advice from Redkat, BLU and c n' b... I'd say you've done damned well for your first day in the Ozsylum.

    Best of luck with the resto' and I hope the end result of the labour, provides you with a "keeper" that you will have plenty of great rides on. :thumbup
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  14. GSXR

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    My response was in answer to your question. Yes, upon first impression, it is doomed.

    Have seen heaps of XR400s with rusted frames and subject to neglect. It usually ends up a money / time pit. A good later model eample can be had for little more $$

    Good luck should you choose to continue
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  15. bigborett

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    You need to go into this realising that it could well end up more than you plan on. If you realise that go for it, bit of a fixer upper.

    Financially, I think I would be running away though.

    Hope it works out.
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  16. AUSSIEADV

    AUSSIEADV Long timer

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    Geez it wouldn’t take much to patch up that frame. Mig will do for that bike. Empty all fluids so the bike can be tipped upside down. Patch it up, get it going, spend little. With the motor sweet as you say, she’ll be right. Don’t pay more than that $100 bucks offered for the frame work.
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  17. GSXR

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    Depends on your expectations and budget I guess.

    If someone I knew sent me those pics with a 'whadya reckon?' type comment, I wouldn't even text them back. Surely a gee-up
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  18. XR4play

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    just adding in my 2 cents there is a bloke on facebook with wrecking several honda's he lists an xr400, and that is the way i went when i brought an xr4 with the footpeg ripped off and the rest of the frame shot
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  19. Donjulio85

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    Done and done. Guy came round today and checked out rhe job. Next weekend he is coming pick up the bike. For a 100 bucks and a 6 pack of rum he is going to fix up the frame, reweld th kickstand, reinforce the subframe and give me a welding lession. awhat a dude. Review to follow and new local welding tip. All Mig.
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  20. flinders_72

    flinders_72 Long timer

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    If you can fix it up without it costing you anything (if you then sell it) or much it's worth fixing up. At least then you'll know what's been done to it. You could sell it now and get one that looks great on the outside, but it might be a disaster on the inside.
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