Is Rossi the new Biaggi?

Discussion in 'Racing' started by RaY YreKa, Nov 4, 2010.

  1. UngaWunga

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    Kid.. he's not a kid. You want to see a kid that you can respect? Watch the last 125GP race. Marquez is a tremendous rider at 17.

    Rossi will have a hard time next year. We'll see if he starts whining and making excuses then.
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  2. Lurky-Loo

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    He has more riding chops in his small toenail, but I have a full head of hair.
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  3. Gizmo

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    Yes he has complained this year more, which typically is not the way he rolls. I think he is just frustrated. He has a long way to go before he reaches Biaggi's level of whining.
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  4. bingbong

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    There will be no next Biaggi until some weird lopsided facial hair is involved.
    In all honesty I don't remember him being a whiner as such more "it could always be better" even after winning a world championship :dunno .
    John Kozinski on the other hand...................
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    I think they should have a lottery and pick one of us Fearless ADV'ers and plop em on a Moto-Gp bike,see how it works out at Catalunya.
    Pretty easy to second guess from the keyboard.
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  6. RaY YreKa

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    I started this thread in the manner of pub banter, no 'axe' to grind at all. Like I said, I sit down to watch the racing with my son and we sip soft drinks and throw cookies at each other.
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  9. Silver

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    !!!!!!!!!!!!! I would enter any and every lotto that would let me ride one of these beasts. Not saying I would do any good, I just want to RIDE(probably crash) one. Ooof. You let me know if you find any lottos like that.
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  10. shrineclown

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    Well, he is the consummate Rossi fan. Are you sure he has a wife? :lol3

    Oh, I guess I am supposed to add these days, not that there is anything wrong with that.
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  11. shrineclown

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    Dude, that was not whining. We call that road rage.
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  12. shrineclown

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    That kid is a pretty cool cat.

    Rossi will be fine next year. He may have issues that he will express and some will take it as whining. But he will be fine once he sorts it all out. He will surely understand what is not working properly and Burgess will make it as best he can. No worries. The real question is, how will he take it out the competition if he struggles for too long? It is going to be fun to watch. But, I would bet they are pretty competitive and there won't be too much drama.
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  13. slideways

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    Rossi is GOD , until I say otherwise.:deal

    He has surpassed Mike the Bike and Agostini . What the fuck else would you have him do? Walk on water?
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    As such I was pleasantly surprised to see Jorge's latest helmet. :lol3
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  15. shrineclown

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    Audited.
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  16. 101N

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    I'm definitely a Rossi fan. BUT, go look at Ago's record on wikipedia. My god he was dominant for a looooong time.

    The GOAT bar has been set very high by Ago. Rossi aint there yet.
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  17. slideways

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    I agree statistically you are right. Ago is the greatest of them all with 122 GP victories, actually it is a 123 if you count his last win at Hockenheim in 1977 for some reason they do not count that win??? I was lucky enough to be there and yes he did win.

    When Ago was asked about Valentino he replied " Valentino is the best today, I was the best of my time. Mike (Hailwood) was the best of his time. That is all you can say."
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  18. Kropotkin

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    The argument there is that Ago set those records only have one other competitor - the other guy on an MV. But then, he did it on lethal tracks and in two classes simultaneously, which sort of compensates.

    Anyway, talk of the GOAT is rather pointless. For all we know, there was some dude on a boardtracker in the teens who cleaned up.
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  19. shrineclown

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    If you put Ago on a Matchless or a Norton, I suspect he would have done the same thing.
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  20. Mr Head

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    When Ago was riding the MV, that was the bike to have. Everything else was crap. The Norton was good as a 500 way, way back early fifties. marketing is somehow able to make that glory burn long after the crowd has gone.

    I think Max was on the short end of casting. He got to the party late and got cast as the villain. We were all supposed to hate him. So he acted the part.

    Or not?

    It was entertaining and that is the real bottom line point to all this racing. Entertain us and extract some loose change in the process. OK, quite a lot of loose and not so loose change. Folding kind.

    Max as a winner is pretty cool to watch and listen to. Much better than when he is perpetually losing.
    Rossi, I don't think whines so much as says it wrong or the translation comes down wrong. Not sure since I don't speak Italian and am not culturally aware enough to understand any subtleties of the Google translations.

    I think next year will be telling for who is the real whiner-king. I'm thinking Stoner is going for that crown. Honda are going to be stretched threeways. Back with Hayden and Pedrosa they proved they could only concentrate on one, or they only really picked one. Or they wanted it to be all about the Bike and not the rider.
    I don't know that we've seen anything that is going to change that frame of mind.
    They gave Doohan a bike so evil he had to manhandle the front like he was steer wrestling. he made it work and everybody thought Honda was the best.

    My kids are daughters, and young adults. They tolerate me watching MotoGP when I'm not on travel and there aren't any chick-shows on. I point out Rossi and they think he is pretty goofy looking, but they say that about Max too. They think Stoner is in pain. The think Nicky is cute, but Ben is cuter, and Pedrosa and Jorge and a few others better looking.

    The racing starts and they leave the room. Sometimes I can get them or my wife to come sit for a minute to watch a replay of some daring move.

    Then sometimes somebody will sit on the couch with me and watch almost the whole race. (they do seem to talk through the whole race though:huh)...

    It doesn't seem like they even pay attention, but a few weeks later, I'm re-watching a race, (subscriptions let this happen), and damned if they don't don't come into the room and complain, "we already saw this race"...

    My pick for whiner next year is Casey Stoner. Should start about ten minutes after he tucks the front in Qatar. Take him about that long to get back to the pitbox.

    Rossi and Ducati are going to move the earth to make that bright red bike a winner. They have to. This is like Ago and MV. They absolutely have to win.
    There can be no second no wit until next year and the big bike comes. It has to be first thing right out of the box. No other rider or team has that hanging over them. With that Rossi is not going to be whinning no matter how big a steaming pile of poo the red machine is.

    Tough part is Ben is in the garage with Jorge. Yamaha has a package that only needs a few tweaks. And they have a rider that has figured out how to ride around those few needed tweaks. If they get him a little more power off the corner to stay with the rockets that the Ducati and Honda will be, and a little bit more front end feel, Rossi and Ducati will have all they can handle and more.
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