Is there a cheaper way to ride Austrian Alps?

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  1. Seppo

    Seppo Been here awhile

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    hey lee,

    i live about 75km west of vienna (as the crow flies). just north of the alps, and around here, there are plenty nice roads to ride around this time of the year. especially the area around the small town of "Mariazell" is by some people descriped as "sportsbike heaven". but you don´t have to be on a sportbike to enjoy it!
    if you´re interested, i can tell you a route from vienna to this area, all nice roads.

    cheers
    josef

    edit: unfortunatley, my bikes are currently being rebuilt (buell), waiting for service (ducati), unsuitable (husky) or for sale, otherwise i would have offered you one of mine to do the trip much cheaper.
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  2. nordicbiker

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    Hello! 700km per day in the Alps is almost impossible, if you want to stop for some views, take some pics and get something to eat. You will be riding mostly on twisty mountains roads and do several thousand height meters per day, instead. So why not try to negotiate a lower dayly mileage (500km should still be sufficient!) and instead get a lowered daily rate?
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  3. Frostback

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    Seppo - Thanks for the tip and the generosity intentions. I am probavly looking at the biggest road worthy scooter I can find at tjat time of year. the bike shops don't seem to be geared up for rentals this early. I may stop in and inquire though. Agreed on the 700 km per day. Only on long runs would that be helpful and averaged over 5 days I would be fin with 300 km days thrown in.

    Lee
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  4. Seppo

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    hey,

    I checked prices on the biggest austrian motobike site (1000ps.at)
    they also list rental bikes from most companys in austria
    http://www.1000ps.at/motorrad-miete-verleih
    for example, they list a BMW F800GS for 120euros/day, 700km free. and if you rent it for 4-6 days, you can get it for 110euros/day.
    http://www.1000ps.at/leihmotorrad-bmw-f-800-gs-von-bmw-wien-motorradzentrum-4615
    altough i think its the same company that you inquired.

    edit: you might wanna check the weather forecast. doesn´t look good this year, its way colder then normal for this time of the year. and it should stay like this for the next two weeks. maybe you should look for a bike with good wind protection and heated grips/gear...

    2nd edit: here´s a link to a weatherforecast for the town of Mariazell, the most popular spot for riders around here: 16 day weatherforecast for mariazell
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  5. Ali in Austria

    Ali in Austria Been here awhile

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    It certainly is a long winter this year although the ground is warming and the snow starting to retreat. It is still cold enough to settle on the roads higher up but clears quickly.
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  6. catweasel67

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    Good skiing last week in Obertauern and Katzenburg - but they were calling for snow-chains last weekend. Plenty of riding to be done in and around Vienna though, just as long as you don't go all that high.

    Or just say bugger it and grab some skis :D
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  7. Frostback

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  8. L21

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    Michael J
    Once you have taste you dream of the next trip, you are right. After a couple of years renting in Italy, my bike is in a container on its way to stefans. my question for you is how well dose your bike run each year after sitting for a year or so ? Do you add fuel stabilizer before you leave each year and do you cover it. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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  9. MichaelJ

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    Trip #10 coming right up :clap

    No problems yet. It will have been sitting for two years now, and so it may be a bit more reluctant. I usually put it on a trickle charger overnight so that the battery will be happy. I've also found that it starts easier if I reconnect the battery before trying to start it (it's disconnected from the bike for storage, but still connected to the Powerlet receptacle for charging). When prepping for storage, I give the bike a healthy dose of Stabil (which Stefan keeps on hand) and take it out for a 5-10 minute ride to insure that the treated fuel is in the entire system.

    Stefan has two bike storage locations. Short term and staging is at his facility on Hardtstrasse. Long term is at a warehouse in Heidelberg. I heard that it's the local BMW dealer's facility, but can't confirm that. I assume that the bikes aren't covered.

    Not sure what else to say. His facility is about 250 meters from the train station (Heidelberg Kirchheim) and you can get a train directly from the airport (Frankfurt) to there with one change at Mannheim.

    At his facility, he has a pretty complete shop that he makes available for a small fee and/or can do some of the work for you - I've asked him to put fresh tires on my bike for this year.

    He has 4 rooms that he rents out, which makes it VERY handy for prepping the bike either for the ride or for storage. He has two storage rooms at the place - long term for your side & top cases, and a short term for your traveling bags while you're on the bike.

    Some pics of his place on page 9 of this gallery
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  10. L21

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    Michael j Thanks for the info. 35 days left to dream and many more years to come. :D
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  11. MichaelJ

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    :huh :eek1

    Lessee now - that would be VERY early June (I did that (once)).

    * Pack your long johns and electrics (if you have 'em) :wink:

    * The higher passes will probably still be closed - Stelvio, Timmelsjoch, L'Iseran, La Bonnette. Stelvio MAY be accessible from the Bormio side, but probably not from the Trafoi side.

    * The Dolomites will be fully open. And warmer.

    * A lot of hotels will be taking a between-season break to do repairs or just to take a break. Or both. If you're traveling solo (or sharing a room) you should have NO problems getting accommodations - in August you want reservations, but not June/early July.

    Neufenen Pass, June 16, 2002

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  12. L21

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    Two years ago i was lucky and Stelvio was open and the Dolomites were too. But yes it was wet and cold. Heated gear is a must. I like the between seasons less traffic :clapand fewer tourist that do not drive well looking at all the nice views. The local riders are allways out and are always so nice to talk to. If its to cold (snow) this year we will head south to Corsica,Sardinia and south of france. My wife and i have no set plans so the sky is the limit or most likely time. Will ride some of the higher passes on our way back.
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  13. MichaelJ

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    I spent 18 months in Sardinia (USAF) in the mid-late 70s (sans bike :cry) in the northern part. I was stationed at the tropo site on Mt. Limbara and lived in Tempio Pausania. Killer roads and beaches.

    I went there from Northern Italy (Aviano AB) where I sold my bike as I thought I was going back to the US and not staying in Europe.

    I had one of these:

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    that I bought new in 1975 for $1,200. Care to price one now? I loved that bike - rode it all around northern Italy and the Dolomites. At the time, I'd go all day and never see another biker. Not so today.
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  14. L21

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    AIrcraft, killer bike, killer roads and beaches no traffic. That's the good life
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  15. Ali in Austria

    Ali in Austria Been here awhile

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    The weather is a lottery. It is currently very hot where we are. The Air Temp may only be getting up to mid to high teens but in the sun it is scorching. It is shorts and T Shirt weather here at the moment (we are at 1200m and I'm sun burnt already) and perfect biking weather. The mountains are already echoing to the sound of motorcycles.

    At some point soon "The Ice Man" will return for a few days with some very wintery weather just to remind us winter has not gone to far away.

    June can be a bit wet at times so you can expect a few days of rain. It is a bit of a thunderstorm month in the Alps and across Bavaria. Be flexible with your trip and you can usually find some better weather. The Grossglockner and Nockalmstrasse are scheduled to open on 1st May. Stelvio, Timmelsjoch etc usually open at the very end of May, beginning of June. If the East Ramp of Stelvio is closed, check out The Umbrai Pass as often that is open and will take you up to just short of the top of the West Ramp. Gavia usually mid June. Most of the great roads lower down aren't troubled at this time of year. The likes of Gerlos, Rossfeld, Postalm etc are open all year and only fresh snow fall will trouble a motorcycle. It doesn't hang around long on the asphalt this time of year.

    Accommodation isn't really a problem. Some places will be shut but many will be open and there are far less people around for the spaces available.

    We are open almost all year round by the way :D
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