Is there an Explosive Expert in the House

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  1. Fe Man

    Fe Man I am Iron Moran!

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    I wasn't sure where to post this but:
    I need a blasting expert to help with a beaver dam. I'd also prefer not to have to speak with the GBI or BATF.

    Can anyone help?
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  2. Smithy

    Smithy Avoiding the Skid-Demon

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    Electric, or hot fuse?
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  3. Fe Man

    Fe Man I am Iron Moran!

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    Yes!
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  4. 1Gopokes1

    1Gopokes1 Been here awhile

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    Why not use a bullet sensitive binary explosive like www.tannerite.com . Not an explosive until you mix it, Use it the same day you mix it and no storage issues. Used on private property for non commercial application and no license is needed. They ship it right to your house. We used 5lbs to completely flip over a junked car. Check youtube under tannerite.

    Ain't the USA great:nod
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  5. Grreatdog

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    Go to your local VFD. There always seems to be at least one pipe bomb building psycho in every VFD. Start with the training officer.
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  6. Fe Man

    Fe Man I am Iron Moran!

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    Tannerite: very familiar :evil; that would be easy but the way the dam is built, there is no real way to get a bullet into it other than firing straight down from above
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  7. Smithy

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    I learned what I know in the Army, and don't have any practical civil experience... but I will say a hot fuse is probably safer for what you're trying to do, if you can get it. Electric requires you to ground everything, all the time, meticulously, because if you get a static charge in that wire and it's enough to set off your cap, you could be in a world of hurt. That said, you get to control exactly when it goes off if you're careful.

    Can you remote-rig a small pistol or something, so that a long string or R/C control would set it off under the pile, removing you from the danger zone?
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  8. Padriug

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    Bag of fertilizer soaked in diesel, M80 or equivalent on top and a long section of cannon fuse. That should do the trick.
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  9. Smithy

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    I can imagine rigging a bullet, especially if you handload, with a fuse instead of a primer, and some hot glue, secured in a jig at the blast site. No idea how legal that might be, but it's an idea.
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  10. troidus

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    Poor beavers. :cry
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    Hold my beer and whatch this!:lol3
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  12. Smithy

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    Just read the Tannerite website... can you build a vertical stack, or get a couple paper towel tubes and fill 'em, and hit the top with an explosion that is focused down into the bottom of the dam?
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  13. mark883

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    Be sure to do a ride errr..... blast report
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    <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/zhyCL-ELRxg" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
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  15. Fe Man

    Fe Man I am Iron Moran!

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    didn't get that far...
    Where on their site?
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  16. MikeFromMT

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    First you'll need to kill that Beaver or you'll just be wasting your time.
    Depending on the size of the dam chainsaws, ropes, chains will do just as good of a job. Not quite as fun as blowing it up though. If it's a big assed dam you'll need some serious bang, I've seen them 15 feet high and 20 feet thick at the base and 100+ feet long, another was about 1000 feet long and 3 feet tall, I've ridden across several.

    You're required to post the video. :D
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  17. Fe Man

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    The dam is on the upstream side of a road which has a culvert running through it. The dam is completely inaccessible; the upstream side is underwater, the downstream side is the road, the dam of mud and sticks completely blocks the culvert. Chainsaw is a complete waste of time.

    Killing the beavers will not be required. I had something of my own creation in place for years and was completely effective until two years of extreme drought left the pipes high and dry. They subsequently collapsed and somehow disappeared.

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    http://www.clemson.edu/psapublishing/pages/afw/afw1.pdf
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    They sell a bulk order, you mix it and put it into your own container. I don't see why packing a couple wrapping-paper tubes full wouldn't work, and if you originate the blast at one end, it will propagate to the other, forcing energy downward. If you put another charge at the bottom, say a zip-lock full, and set the tube on top of that, you might get good results. I'd be tempted to use a ziplock of smokeless propellant, but again, have no idea of the legality of that.

    Don't try this at home, check your local laws, etc etc ad nauseum.
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  19. green hell

    green hell yawning or snarling

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    yeah, we tore out a dam in canada one year so we could get our boats through the channel. came back about 14 hours later and the damn dam was bigger than the day before.

    before the tear out:

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    the next day:

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    it's a good thing we were leaving a boat on the other side.

    there was another dam further up that raised the water level almost three feet and created a huge wetland.

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  20. Grreatdog

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    The best beaver dam I ever saw was perfectly round. They built the dam around a storm water pond overflow and their lodge in that new zombie proof concrete box and pipe. The devious little bastards flooded a just planted forest mitigation area around the storm water pond and ate themselves a couple of hundred tasty new saplings before anybody noticed. They pretty much wiped out every new store bought tree on two or three acres. The developer was not amused.
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