Israeli ATGATT

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by Forty Years Ago, Jun 28, 2011.

  1. lemieuxmc

    lemieuxmc Banned

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    A 9mm that fires when you need it is preferable to a 5.56 that is jammed in the chamber.

    The 5.56 is a great round, the M4 is a POS.

    Ruger Mini-14 is way better.

    Doesn't that guy know that smoking is dangerous?
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  2. Norhasken

    Norhasken Tryin' to find my way

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    If those dudes are Russian, they should be carrying Krinks. :lol3
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  3. Ceri JC

    Ceri JC UK GSer

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    Interesting. I posted a few weeks back in the F8 forum about a black version of the BMW bashplate that I had found on ebay, where the ad claimed it was used by Israeli military. Perhaps they are using the F8 after all.
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  4. tjhess74

    tjhess74 Been here awhile

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    i would guess mossad or something like that before kgb! definately a kick ass job, im pretty sure those guys can hold their own...
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  5. Hillbilly501

    Hillbilly501 Ultra n00b

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    A lot of agencies are now favouring a .223 jacketed round or similar over a 9mm pistol round due to all their opponents going to decent body armour that will stop a soft lead round, where a rifle round will punch right through. 9mm stuff like the Uzi or the MP5 aren't as effective in close quarters as they once were.
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  6. Dastard

    Dastard Just another guy

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    Are you just trying to start shit :wink:

    The UZI requires MUCH more maintenance than an M4. Way more moving parts on the uzi too. I trusted my life to an M4 for over a year and it never failed me.

    the mini-14 ok but I would rather have the M4
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  7. lemieuxmc

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    I never had a jam in my M-16 A2 or my M4 either, but I saw lots of other guys have them. I was really obsessive about cleaning and lubing the things, a lot more than most guys. I was under the impression that the Uzi and the 5.5 Galil were much easier to clean and more jam resistant, but if you have first hand experience I respect that. My brother has a Mini-14 and I think it's a terrific piece of gear.
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  8. Velocifer

    Velocifer Been here awhile

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    I've been there a couple of times for work. These guys usually ride 2-up ! Anyone here willing to make fun of them ?:wink:
    They used to be on KLR's. I saw them on a 800 GS in camo paint, Also saw cops on 1200 GS's in Tel Aviv and on the main highway between TA and Jerusalem.
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  9. cliffy109

    cliffy109 Long timer

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    Ummm... with all due respect, now. I seem to remember that you are in the military so I will not debate any anecdotal experience you have, but I will respectfully say that your opinion of both the M4 and the Mini-14 are far out of the mainstream. Even most M4 detractors can't stand the Mini-14 due to its magazine issues, accuracy, sights, and ability to deal with dirt and sand.

    I will say that the 11.5" barrel pictured is not the most reliable thing on the planet, but the 14.5" on the M4 sure seems to work well. I would trust my ass to one.
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  10. Renegade_Azzy

    Renegade_Azzy Kamen Rider

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    And probably a tad easier to deal with while slung on a bike. :evil

    Ive thought about slinging my M1 like that to go to a CMP shoot, being that it is legal and all in PA.
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  11. spaiduhz

    spaiduhz Been here awhile

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    Looking at the shortened barrel, I reckon its an m4 carbine.

    Don't they use g36 rifles over there?
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  12. univibe88

    univibe88 Long timer

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    Don't they realize how hard they are to see wearing all that black and grey..even a black helmet! Those boys need white helmets and some high viz. :rofl
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