It torments me...

Discussion in 'Hacks' started by Heyload, May 7, 2012.

  1. BeeMaa

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    Seductive, yes...and temperamental too.

    If the Ural looks "right", what do you think of this?

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    A Ural type tub that is 4" wider, which is a ton more space for the monkey.
    Maybe pick up a used 1150GSA or 12GSA for the tug and go with it.
    I say GSA because of the larger fuel tank and extended range.
    Cheers and good luck.

    Edit: The reverse thing doesn't seem to bother me.
    I carry a reverse gear in the sidecar (meaning my monkey).
    It's easy for either of us to back it up without any trouble outside of being stuck in the mud.
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  2. Heyload

    Heyload Remastered Classic

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    I think...it looks like somebody spent about 35K to have the same basic abilities as a 10K Ural....

    HA!

    Okay, okay, just kidding, it's an awesome looking bike! Gotta be a hoot to drive, too. I'll bet you really enjoy it. I've thrown a leg over a buddy's GS (sans sidecar), it's pretty sweet. If I ever won the lottery....

    Still want a Ural, though.
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  3. Paint shaker

    Paint shaker Been here awhile

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    Your hooked! While there are some nice other hacks in this thread, it sounds like the only cure for you is to get a Ural! :freaky
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  4. AlanCT

    AlanCT The Byronic Man

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    If the money is stretched a bit thin, don't forget to consider a used one. My '05 purchased in '08 has seen plenty of use - not all of it gentle - and has not yet given me any serious trouble.
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  5. BeeMaa

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    If I started out buying new, 35K would have been a minimum.
    Figure about 20K for the bike, another 10-12K for the hack and maybe 5-7K for the extra accessories I want.
    Buying used makes better financial sense and that's what I did with this one.
    I've owned one new bike my entire life and it gave me nothing but headaches.
    I prefer the used bikes, more wiggle room with the price that way.
    Let's me save $$ for the farkels.
    Cheers.
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  6. Heyload

    Heyload Remastered Classic

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    Well, finally got that first ride on my friends Ural Gobi.

    Fan..freaking...tastic!

    What a hoot! I still haven't wiped the big grin off my face. Rode it all over his ranch, then took it out on the local roads.

    Very different experience, but it wasn't as difficult to ride as I thought it might be. The tendency to wander a bit was a little disconcerting at first, but once I figured out it would pretty much go where I wanted it to, I let it have it's head. Alot like a horse in that respect. Body english goes a long way, doesn't it? Overall, it took about ten minutes to sort of figure it out..pretty intuitive in some respects, but then I've always been pretty good at figuring out machinery and vehicles.

    Even got the sidecar up once...not intentionally, but managed to get it back down easy enough. Prying the seat out of my butt was a different matter, lol! Tried out the 2wd in the soft sandy soil around his place. Wow. Works really well with a little revving..and definitely takes some effort to turn.

    On the road, it was a blast. Very comfortable ride, really. Not going to when any races, but that ain't the point anyhow. Kept up with traffic just fine. It has enough mosey for me.

    Makes all the right noises, too. "Ta-pocketa-ta-pocketa...crunch...ta-pocketa-ta pocketa...

    He walked me through some of the maintenance, to include valve adjustments..holy crap, what a snap! It's like an overblown Briggs and Stratton.

    Just the ticket for what I want to do. Now, to figure out which one I want.:thumb

    edit: while I basically figured it out with some coaching from my friend, I can definitely see where taking a training course would be a very good idea. And practice..lot's and lot's of practice.
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  7. windmill

    windmill Long timer

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    Sounds like your still vacillating, I think you need to be shown more options your not interested in. :lol3
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  8. Heyload

    Heyload Remastered Classic

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    Wellll..:shog

    There was that Vincent Black Shadow I was looking at..but who would want a machine with such an ancient, outdated design that requires alot of maintenance and which clearly doesn't meet today's modern quality standards so therefore is simply not a good value for the money required to own it?

    :augie
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  9. Mr. Cob

    Mr. Cob Howling "Mad", Adventurer

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    Howdy Heyload,

    Ah come on man, are you telling me that a Vincent Black Shadow, isn't bokad approved :eek1 the horror, I say again the HORROR of it all :eek2
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  10. Heyload

    Heyload Remastered Classic

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    I know not of this "bokad" of which you speak, sir.....Is that some sort of Soviet-era version of "Consumer Reports"..?
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  11. Boondox

    Boondox Travels With Barley

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    Like Eric, I have no reverse and wonder what all the fuss is about. A hack rolls exceptionally easy; there's no fighting to keep the bike upright. On pavement I can one-foot Flintstone back with ease even up a gentle slope. More than that, or in the dirt, I dismount and push back with my hip against the ADV bag. But you also learn to align your approach so you don't have to push backwards. I'll park nose in on an uphill, or roll backwards to park on a downhill.

    To me, the ability to reach a destination quickly so I can slow down and explore is more important. Besides, everyone knows reverse is for pussies.:lol3
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  12. Mr. Cob

    Mr. Cob Howling "Mad", Adventurer

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    Howdy Heyload,

    bokad, is an international traveler who has gone to great lengths to pontificate on the quality issues concerning Ural's.
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  13. Heyload

    Heyload Remastered Classic

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    Good for you, Boondox!. Thanks for the input. Opinion duly noted and given the consideration it deserves.
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  14. Heyload

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    Oh, that thread, yeah...

    Well, each to their own.
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  15. planzman

    planzman commie bike rider

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    Dude, you seen the 09 in bakersfield? Go look on CL, its got everything but color tv.
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  16. Heyload

    Heyload Remastered Classic

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    Not seeing it, Nav. Coordinates, plz. (Day)
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  17. windmill

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    Gee, my Ural normally doesn't cruise over 65 mph and I get where I want to go, I wounder what all the fuss is all about.....................now a rig built on one of those new Vincent Black Shadows :tb , but I don't live in that neighborhood.

    So much has been lost in the name of making things "better", and there is more than one definition of "best"
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  18. Heyload

    Heyload Remastered Classic

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    I hear you, Windmill.

    That old Waco with that big radial engine that occasionally flies over my house..what a slow, outdated POC that thing is...can't imagine why anyone would strap their butt into that contraption...certainly no competition for say, a Gulfstream or a Citation...not even a Lanceair.

    Hell, even my aircraft, the C-5...40 year old maintenance hog, built by the lowest bidder on the contract. Not very high tech or "Buck Rogers", that old pig, it's a wonder the Air Force hasn't put 'em all out to pasture.

    Oh right, they haven't because they get the job done...

    Come to think of it, I'm an antique myself. Need constant maintenance, don't always work the way I should. Seem's like I'm always breaking down, allergies or pulling a muscle. Yet somehow, I keep getting the job done.

    I own a V-Strom, an ugly but damned fine motorcycle. It get's the job done too. Doesn't need a whole lot of attention, really. A little regular maintenance, kick the tires, light the fires sort of machine. Like my refrigerator. It get's the job done too, but really lacks what I call character.

    I LIKE to tinker, to work with my hands, to embrace whatever machine I am fooling with, to learn it's intricancies and nuances, to really UNDERSTAND it. I've done my share of turning wrenches on alot of different types of machinery in my 47 years. Some were a pleasure to work with, some were a stone-cold bitch.

    Shoot, anybody can buy an "appliance". Yeah, it will work just fine, require little maintenance and get the job done.

    For me, the fun is in having a machine that really speaks to me, one that I can connect with, that I can work with. Each turn of a screw or bolt makes that machine a part of me, and me a part of it.

    That's the way I like it, too.

    Who here hasn't ever, not once, walked by a bike or a car or anything, and just stopped and stared, and just wanted it...no reasoning, no logic, knowing what it was, warts and all...and still wanted it, in spite of that?

    We choose to ride what we like, because WE like it. If you are buying something just because "all the cool kids are doing it", then you really need to stop and reconsider your position in the matter.

    I like Urals because they speak to me. I don't even bother trying to figure out why. And I don't give a flaming rat's ass if you agree with me, or if you have a faster, shinier machine, or if your experience with them was a horror show, or if you just like to dump on other people for not drinking your particular brand of Kool-aid. That goes both ways.

    Whatever, dudes, get over it and get on with things. Either you get it or you don't when it comes to particular things. Life is too frigging short to waste in pointless debate.
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  19. Greg H

    Greg H Been here awhile

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    Heyload,

    I was in a similar situation a couple of months ago and then this thing followed me home.
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    They just look right and are a real joy to drive around on.

    Greg
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  20. Boondox

    Boondox Travels With Barley

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    Didn't mean to twist your knickers. Hacks are rare enough that I feel fraternal joy at every sighting. In the end, we all choose our rigs to meet our own requirements. For me, I figure I have five years left to travel with a remarkable dog who shares my roadside adventures. I time my trips around his sleep cycles and like to cover a lot of ground when he's snoozing...so we can play around at our rest stops. So for my tug it was something able to cover long distances: Wing, FJR, RT, etc. I chose the GSA because I live in a very rural part of Vermont and have to deal with mud and potholes a bit.

    If my needs were different I very well could have ended up with a Ural. It's not in me to crap on another man's choice unless in a tongue-in-cheek sort of way.

    Peace.
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