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Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by Baldy, Mar 22, 2013.
Best idea in the thread.
Dump the megathreads into a subforum. 50 page threshold or something. That keeps the general thumper section moving and gives new and smaller threads a fighting chance, while also making the megathreads easier to find and search. No size split, no brand split, no location split, means less potential whining.
The massive bike specific circle jerks get in the way sometimes.
I'd still split European and Japanese (with a general forum for the don't fits)
If I want to look up a bike, or compare types, I go to the appropriate section.
That's actually a pretty good idea.
Like everything from this page?
and maybe some of these too?
IF a split is a must, this idea so far is not too bad. ^^
But at the moment there are 13 "mega bike specific" threads on the first page of Thumpers, 13 out of 40, not too much IMO. And there's a lot of diversity, different brands, cc's.
It's not like Beasts were, when the BMW 800cc bikes came out. Jeez, that lot was getting annoying... there were propably 30 threads on the first page about the f800gs.
Don't see the problem at Thumpers though. If difficult in finding information here is the problem, then maybe a "Google Tutorial thread" stickyed at the top would help the lost ones.
FWIW, the UK rally series splits 'big' and 'small' at 575cc for exactly that reason. Puts the open class enduro machines together in the small class, and the big, heavy thumpers in the big class. Probably not a bad idea for this forum.
There's always going to be some oddballs, but if (say) I was building a monster engined EXC that crossed the capacity boundary I'd still stick it in the 'small' forum as it's more in the spirit of that.
Huskyfatman is on to something
Lightweight vs heavyweight
300 pounds or whatever global equivalent is the cutoff.
That is a natural organic weight that everybody either wants to stay under for their particular use or, once breached, doesn't really matter how far over you go.
Hhhhmmmm.....Thumpers and MegaThumpers......this idea has real merit. If "de-cluttering" is the goal, this could be a fairly painless solution.
If "better organization" is the goal, then displacement groups are the way to go, with three communal campfires burning instead of one: Minors, Mids, & Majors
If you do the BMW KTM split does Husaberg go with KTM and where does Husqvarna go?
BMW thumpers go under GS / singles
KTM thumpers go under KTM / singles
EVERYTHING ELSE stays in Thumpers
The split would be by BRAND not by the name of holding company that happens to own the brand.
I haven't noticed the problem much other than the fact that there are threads about non-thumpers in there. Really? A thread about Teneres in thumpers?
Punt it (and others like it) somewhere but I think thumpers is just fine if we just keep thumpers in there.
this, we need a modern ring-a-ding forum!
The problem here is there will be a hindrance to cross pollinating information about different marques which share the same engine, i.e. the BMW/Husky 450 engine; the BMW, Aprillia, and Husky Rotax; and the KTM/Berg newer dual and single cam engines.
Perhaps a split on topic, Touring, Trail, Street, and Upkeep/Modification.
Why? I just frankly don't understand why so many people here think KTM and BMW don't belong in a general Thumper discussion. I am not trying to be a smartass, I really want to know what the rationale is for the idea. Especially given how many multi brand people post here.
And SigPig makes a valid point. A Berg is a KTM in blue dress. You split off KTM and you need to take Husaberg with it. How about the BMW powered Huskies? What brings me here instead of a brand specific forum is the outrageous mixing and matching. Why y'all want to make things homogeneous is beyond my comprehension.
Which is why I like to hear the actual rationale behind this idea. Maybe I am missing something.
Erm, pretty sure I only counted one cylinder when I was building my Tenere. Just because you 'muricans only get the (2-cyl) Super Ten, doesn't change the fact that Teneres have been thumpers for nearly thirty years
I can nitpick every potential approach, but I think this is reasonably logical, and should help people find the right forum.
I would make three forums out of Thumpers:
Singles under 599cc - Dirty!
Singles over 599cc - Far!
2-strokes - Prehistoric! (just kidding)
My logic is that this makes cross pollination between brands easier than splitting it by manufacturer, and the intended use within these divisions is more or less distinct.
Sure, there are some bikes that cross over, but there is a lot of commonality in intended use by and large.
I read this yesterday, it had relevance but did not really hit home til last night.
I lost my brother to cancer a year ago at the tender age of 57. He was a prolific poster here and I spent some time looking through his posts last night. After seeing his pics that I had not seen before and reading his posts it has moved me to put together a monage of his experiences and share it with family and friends. I am glad this opportunity exists.... I miss you Gary (Hammer).
As far as the split I guess the best idea I have heard is the cc's split. Any change that happens I will adapt but wiser minds in this subject should prevail.
Thank you all for providing an informative and entertaining site.
I'm looking for a small-displacement dual sport and a mid-displacement street bike. I depend on the inmates in the thumper and road warrior forums to let me know what's new from the manufacturers. If thumpers had been divided into two forums by displacement I probably wouldn't have seen the Husky 650 strada/terra thread. Now I'm considering the strada for my street bike.
I like the way things are. I don't think there's any way to divide the forum that will increase it's utility--only decrease it.
That's exactly my worry. Somebody considering a mild 250 DS bike (i.e. xt250) could easily be looking at a DR650 as well depending upon their mission. But I would guess the person looking for a CFR250/XT250/DR200 isn't looking for a small displacement KTM or Husky.
I still like the idea of moving the megathreads, but perhaps a dirt only subforum may work too.
Sorry about that, yes we only get the big pig and it sure as heck isn't a thumper.
I like this!