It's time to split Thumpers...

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by Baldy, Mar 22, 2013.

  1. Foot dragger

    Foot dragger singletracker

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    Two strokes arent thumpers,they dont need to be in with cam/valve beasts.

    The 250 thumper fanatics are they're own subset of loonies,they of the high revving low horsepower buzz bombs.

    Probably the simplest way would be below 450 and above.
    No perfect solution.
  2. WayneC

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  3. Grreatdog

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    I am starting to think it is time to change the name to singles just so the "it ain't a Thumper types" will give it a rest. With my friends there are two strokes mixed in with Thumpers on about every ride. So this is where two strokes fit whether or not it offends the name sensitive.

    Weight doesn't make much sense to me because Japanese 250's weigh more than big bore KTM dual sports but are an entirely different type of motorcycle. If you set weight high enough to clear Japanese 250's you capture all of the EXC's along with LC4E's and probably the 690 Enduro.

    But, every time I ride in a group displacement is how things naturally get sorted out. Little bikes can't hang with big bikes in the open and big bikes can't hang with little bikes in the snot. When we hit the road for mountain paved twisties the little guys tend to stick with the offroad program. When the little guys hit the AA loop the big boys either cringe and suck up the hell or take the bailout loop.

    If we have to do it, displacement seems like the way to go. But, to me, the split needs to be 600+ or you end up capturing big bore EXC's and TE's with Japanese and Euro long range dual sports.
  4. larryboy

    larryboy Chopper Rider

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    That proves something to me, I know what an XT250 is even though I don't have one, but I have zero clue what an EXC or an XCW is...put the KTM's as a subforum under Orange Crush...ya'll are a club anyways.
  5. Rusty Rocket

    Rusty Rocket Life behind "Bars"

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    That's how they do it on Thumper Talk. I'm OK with it, but almost never go there.
  6. Gordy

    Gordy Team Listo

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    +1 for Ned's use of the word confusication. :norton

    This thread has it!
  7. Bake

    Bake adventurer

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    Delete all the damn mega threads. Enough is enough, an end has to be put to this.
    Sub forum questions about bikes the son of a bitch doesn't even own.
    And just delete threads that are clearly a bunch of crap. " can I put 1979 Yz125 forks on my DR? My cousin bent the DR forks when he crashed into a culvert, and my uncle has these primo forks behind his barn"
    Plus, just ban a dumbass for doing something stupid like that. All these threads explaining how to swap an oil seal from onemodel KTM to it's distant relative- stupid idiots! who gives a fuck you scrounge for o-rings? You need to tell the whole world about the dime you made? Ban him. Or give him access to the KLR's only.
  8. Grinnin

    Grinnin Forever N00b

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    Same here.

    To me the Europeans are exotics. No dealers in half this state. I don't see European dealers in many other rural areas either when I do see Japanese-brand dealers.

    I'm sure there are European dealers in many rural areas that are more prosperous or near cities.

    There's no need for me to know what an EXC is because they just aren't around here.

    I'd really prefer East/West split but will appreciate ADV however it's organized.
  9. rch10007

    rch10007 Dotted Quad Ranger

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    ...speaking of useless posts inside a thread. :lol3
  10. neepuk

    neepuk Such a drag...

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  11. nevermind

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  12. OrangeYZ

    OrangeYZ Been here awhile

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    Two of the most commonly compared bikes in this forum are the DR650 and the KLR650 :deal
  13. ScottDill

    ScottDill TANSTAAFL

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    I've thought for a long time that KLR's should have their own sub forum.

    To me the important thing is the bike itself, but how its used. Individual threads do fine for focusing on specific models and issues, but comparsions and contrasts are best discussed across threads in a melting pot style forum.

    How about breaking it along usage? Something like:

    Travel/adventure Thumping
    Enduro/DS Thumping
    2 stroke - non-thumping

    There's cross-over, but a KLR has nothing in common with a 450EXC...just sayin'. Now a 450 EXC could be discussed in either thread...of course depending on how it was being used.

    just a thought.
  14. Baldy

    Baldy Site Owner Administrator

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    Changing the name to Singles sounds like a good idea. To me, a thumper is a big four-stroke single and has been ever since the BSA 441 Victors cast a spell on me at the hill climbs when I was a teenager.

    I'm still struggling with the thing that I've heard so much complaining about over the years (and even in this thread), which are the megathreads.

    It seems to me the fear that gripped people in my first post when I mentioned brands has blinded us to a possibly very clean solution. We still end up with a general thumpers (or singles) forum for all the posts that compare one bike to another or use forks off one for another.

    But the model-specific threads go into brand subforums, reducing the noise in the general thumpers thread and making things easier to find because now you can have threads on transmissions for a specific bike instead of having transmission talk spread throughout the whole thread.
  15. B.C.Biker

    B.C.Biker mighty fine

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    Soooo... my couple of cents would be along the lines of what ScottDill and some others have posted. If it does have to change the meaga threads could go in their own area. I like the idea of seperating them by use not by brand,size or weight. Truth be told , the bikes I'm interested in that have the big threads I would rather go to a different website that is for only that model.
    ADV is still by far my favorite site on the web. Because of Thumpers and Equipment and Trip Planning. I don't have a woods weapon any more but because I ride 90% on my own I can ride at my max ability on single track and just give up when it gets to tight. I enjoy reading about others riding the tight stuff on proper bikes and the stuff they use. I own a couple old two stoke trials bikes but rarely go to that section. More likely to ride one across the field in a cloud of smoke to check a hole in the fence than to ride over a Volkswagen. Would I spend the extra time to check out two or more extra threads by brand or weight? Probably never, already specific web sites for that.
  16. Grreatdog

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    Sounds like the best solution to me - especially since it is the one I was hoping for. :lol3
  17. JensEskildsen

    JensEskildsen Long timer

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    The megathreads are good, some of them are over 2000 pages. That would equal a couple hundred different topics, with small issues that could easely be answered, but ends up in trollin', going offtopic ect.

    Make a subforum for the megeathreads, with a link in a stickypost in thumpers. Also, make small guidelines for using the megathreads. For me that would be really small issues, like "how much torque for rear axle" ect, and for posting pictures of your bike, and stuff like that. Just small things that we could live without, but prefer not to :clap
  18. ShadyRascal

    ShadyRascal Master of None

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    So what you're saying is that I'm gonna be sitting there in bed on my netbook, all enthralled in a DR650 conversation, and Miss Valerie is going to say "Whattaya doing", and I'll reflexively respond "Oh I'm on the Singles forum again."

    Pain ensues.
  19. rpet

    rpet Awesometown

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    This thread is getting tedious, but in case no one has said it yet...

    WR250R and CRF250L have more in common with a DR650 than with a WR250F or a XCF250.

    Just pointing out that capacity ain't all of it.
  20. Red Sand

    Red Sand Been here awhile

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    Would it really be that difficult or bad to simply classify by manufacturer and be done with it?

    And I prefer thumpers to singles. Let my wife find out I'm at the singles forum and she'll kill me.